Ralph Hilton... the Hypocrite
From: "Virginia" <v...@icehouse.net>
Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology
Subject: Ralph Hilton..the Hypocrite
Date: Fri, 2 May 2003 08:36:44 -0700
Organization: VerioFrom the thread: "A test of Fair Game law"..
"Cerridwen" <Anonymous-Remai...@See.Comment.Header> wrote in message news:3BLLC70B37741.8762847222@anonymous.poster...
"Ralph Hilton" <r...@fzint.org> wrote in message
news:f3dvavorm084ugmibje4fgon6cse1gb0sp@4ax.com...According to the Policy letter regarding "Fair game" on http://www.xenu.net/fairgame-e.html
"ENEMY SP Order. Fair game. May be deprived of property or injured by any means by any Scientologist without any discipline of the Scientologist. May be tricked, sued or lied to or destroyed."
Someone who appears to be a member of the CofS has created a libellous website including the statements at http://www.angelfire.com/ex/freiezone/mpip07.html
I have written to CofS lawyers in complaint. We shall see whether or not the CofS chooses to discipline its members for public acts of libel and hate-mongering contrary to the current stated policies of the CofS.
The page no longer exists but one of the insane McClaughry Cabal posted it to ars
This has the smell of Virginia on it.
Virginia has a very distinct type of insanity. It's usually quite evil and destructive. She hates Ralph and this type of crap is right up her alley.
You wouldn't be trying to "fair game" me and LIE that that website is mine, or that I "put it up" now would you "cerridwen"?
Nawww, that would make you at a MINIMUM, a complete hypocrite, oddly enough...exactly like Ralph Hilton.
Ralph Hilton has publically stated his intention to what was it ...take me out? "caustic actions" ummm "squish like a bug"? etc. etc, but oh well now, that's OK, NObody on ARS or ACT has a problem with that, then he has the nerve to try and foist off some sort of plea of "fair game"?
Totally Hypocritical.
Virginia
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From: "Virginia" <v...@icehouse.net>
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Organization: VerioOh and let us not forget...Ralph's stated intention to destroy fza.org.
Ralph Hilton, in expressing his intent to destroy FZA.ORG wrote:
From: Ralph Hilton
Date: Sat Nov 3, 2001 1:03 am
Subject: Re: [fzaoint] I have come back
On Fri, 02 Nov 2001 21:28:07 -0000 you wrote:... Hi ...,
Tommy cut a few people off the list as he wasn't sure if they were ok or not. I told him that you are ok so all should be ok now.
There were several infiltrators from people who have chosen us as enemies for whatever reason.
There will be some fairly caustic actions with regard to Virginia in the near future.
I respect your desire for peace however fza will look like Afghanistan fairly soon.
--
Ralph Hilton
http://www.fzint.org/rhilton
Freezone International: http://www.fzint.org
C-Meter: http://www.inquisitive-instruments.co.uk/----------------
Like I said Ralph Hilton is....
Totally Hypocritical.
Virginia
"Virginia" <v...@icehouse.net> wrote in message news:Uhwsa.12164$io.321474@iad-read.news.verio.net...
From the thread: "A test of Fair Game law"..
"Cerridwen" <Anonymous-Remai...@See.Comment.Header> wrote in message news:3BLLC70B37741.8762847222@anonymous.poster...
"Ralph Hilton" <r...@fzint.org> wrote in message news:f3dvavorm084ugmibje4fgon6cse1gb0sp@4ax.com...
According to the Policy letter regarding "Fair game" on http://www.xenu.net/fairgame-e.html
"ENEMY SP Order. Fair game. May be deprived of property or injured by any means by any Scientologist without any discipline of the Scientologist. May be tricked, sued or lied to or destroyed."
Someone who appears to be a member of the CofS has created a libellous website including the statements at http://www.angelfire.com/ex/freiezone/mpip07.html
I have written to CofS lawyers in complaint. We shall see whether or not the CofS chooses to discipline its members for public acts of libel and hate-mongering contrary to the current stated policies of the CofS.
The page no longer exists but one of the insane McClaughry Cabal posted it to ars
This has the smell of Virginia on it.
Virginia has a very distinct type of insanity. It's usually quite evil and destructive. She hates Ralph and this type of crap is right up her alley.
You wouldn't be trying to "fair game" me and LIE that that website is mine, or that I "put it up" now would you "cerridwen"?
Nawww, that would make you at a MINIMUM, a complete hypocrite, oddly enough...exactly like Ralph Hilton.
Ralph Hilton has publically stated his intention to what was it ...take me out? "caustic actions" ummm "squish like a bug"? etc. etc, but oh well now, that's OK, NObody on ARS or ACT has a problem with that, then he has the nerve to try and foist off some sort of plea of "fair game"?
Totally Hypocritical.
Virginia
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From: "Fluffygirl" <cswa...@comcast.net>
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Subject: Re: Ralph Hilton..the Hypocrite
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X-Original-Trace: 2 May 2003 19:56:33 -0400, 67.160.10.161"Virginia" <v...@icehouse.net> wrote in message
news:OOwsa.12177$io.321609@iad-read.news.verio.net...Oh and let us not forget...Ralph's stated intention to destroy fza.org.
Ralph Hilton, in expressing his intent to destroy FZA.ORG wrote:
From: Ralph Hilton
Date: Sat Nov 3, 2001 1:03 am
Subject: Re: [fzaoint] I have come back
On Fri, 02 Nov 2001 21:28:07 -0000 you wrote:<snip text- easily accessed if need be>
I don't see this as a threat. He's talking about infighting.
Try takin' some responsibility, for a change.
Had ser facs run? Time to redo?
CS (my initials are, I think, apt here...)
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From: basic2ba...@yahoo.com (basicbasic)
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Subject: Re: Ralph Hilton..the Hypocrite
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NNTP-Posting-Date: 3 May 2003 00:27:40 GMT"Virginia" <v...@icehouse.net> wrote in message news:<OOwsa.12177$io.321609@iad->
Like I said Ralph Hilton is....
Totally Hypocritical.
Virginia
The overt doth speak loudly in accusation!
The COSI list after Virginia becoming owner and moderator was reduced from 123 members to 17. Is now defunct.
On becoming moderator of old FZA message boards, Virginia slanged off various auditors and the whole FZAOINT organisation. When challenged on this she started throwing people off including all 150 approx members of FZAOINT.
Shortly afterwards FZA website imploded. And was gone. This was not done by Ralph Hilton. It was done by the twit trio, and/or sidekick website owner Paul Misunias.
Virginia during these exchanges stated that reducing membership by 83% was an upstat as it would then be a forum that was marcabian and agent free.
Posted as a public service to those who were not around at that time, and wonder what this vengeful harriden is doing here.
bb
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From: Paul Misiunas <nos...@fza.org>
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Subject: Re: Ralph Hilton..the Hypocrite
Date: Sun, 04 May 2003 14:59:46 -0400
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"Virginia" <v...@icehouse.net> wrote in message news:<OOwsa.12177$io.321609@iad->
Like I said Ralph Hilton is....
Totally Hypocritical.
Virginia
The overt doth speak loudly in accusation!
The COSI list after Virginia becoming owner and moderator was reduced from 123 members to 17. Is now defunct.
On becoming moderator of old FZA message boards, Virginia slanged off various auditors and the whole FZAOINT organisation. When challenged on this she started throwing people off including all 150 approx members of FZAOINT.
Well Terril, based upon your admission, Ralph sure had a lot of help when he made the following 'freezone' directive: "I respect your [Tommy Thompson's] desire for peace however fza will look like Afghanistan fairly soon."
The funny thing is that after I made it known that your 'freezone' group was NOT invited to the NEW forum that I made, Ralph WHINED about there being censorship.
Being attacked by 150 people from FZAOINT, on my own site, would not be a pleasant thing, as you could well imagine.
Shortly afterwards FZA website imploded. And was gone. This was not done by Ralph Hilton. It was done by the twit trio, and/or sidekick website owner Paul Misunias.
No, of course not, You are ALL innocent.
You're INNOCENT I tell you! :-)
Virginia during these exchanges stated that reducing membership by 83% was an upstat as it would then be a forum that was marcabian and agent free.
Yes, that IS true. But of course, from YOUR end, the stats would be WAY down. 13% - that's not a lot for your side of the equation.
What makes it even worse is that the 13% were all accounted for.
Damn! :-)
Posted as a public service to those who were not around at that time, and wonder what this vengeful harriden is doing here.
Yes, thanks Terril.
BTW: Did you get your OT2 from Ralph free because you are his spokesperson or did you have to pay for it?
If you did have to pay for his 'freezone' processing, how much did he charge you?
Paul
bb
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From: basic2ba...@yahoo.com (basicbasic)
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Subject: Re: Ralph Hilton..the Hypocrite
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NNTP-Posting-Date: 4 May 2003 22:25:53 GMTPaul Misiunas <nos...@fza.org> wrote in message
The COSI list after Virginia becoming owner and moderator was reduced from 123 members to 17. Is now defunct.
On becoming moderator of old FZA message boards, Virginia slanged off various auditors and the whole FZAOINT organisation. When challenged on this she started throwing people off including all 150 approx members of FZAOINT.
Well Terril, based upon your admission, Ralph sure had a lot of help when he made the following 'freezone' directive:
"I respect your [Tommy Thompson's] desire for peace however fza will look like Afghanistan fairly soon."What is a "freezone" directive?
The funny thing is that after I made it known that your 'freezone' group was NOT invited to the NEW forum that I made, Ralph WHINED about there being censorship.
PR speak, weasel words. You are saying you threw us and others off and they were not invited back?
This was another forum where people had traditionally communicated quite happily with little discord.
Your sick deluded mentor was attacking us. Had that not been so I would not at that time come to your forums. Was years since I'd been there, and had forgotten about them.
Being attacked by 150 people from FZAOINT, on my own site, would not be a pleasant thing, as you could well imagine.
Only 4 posted, plus one who said we were being attacked. Outpoint city.
Shortly afterwards FZA website imploded. And was gone. This was not done by Ralph Hilton. It was done by the twit trio, and/or sidekick website owner Paul Misunias.
No, of course not, You are ALL innocent.
You're INNOCENT I tell you! :-)
I know. Who took the website down?
Virginia during these exchanges stated that reducing membership by 83% was an upstat as it would then be a forum that was marcabian and agent free.
Yes, that IS true.
[snip]
QED
Sick lunatic fucks.
bb
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From: "Virginia" <v...@icehouse.net>
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Organization: Verio"basicbasic" <basic2ba...@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:7acb5afd.0305041425.26f8ef47@posting.google.com...Paul Misiunas <nos...@fza.org> wrote in message
The COSI list after Virginia becoming owner and moderator was reduced from 123 members to 17. Is now defunct
On becoming moderator of old FZA message boards, Virginia slanged off various auditors and the whole FZAOINT organisation. When challenged on this she started throwing people off including all 150 approx members of FZAOINT
Well Terril, based upon your admission, Ralph sure had a lot of help when he made the following 'freezone' directive:
"I respect your [Tommy Thompson's] desire for peace however fza will look like Afghanistan fairly soon."What is a "freezone" directive?
The funny thing is that after I made it known that your 'freezone' group was NOT invited to the NEW forum that I made, Ralph WHINED about there being censorship
PR speak, weasel words. You are saying you threw us and others off and they were not invited back?
This was another forum where people had traditionally communicated quite happily with little discord
Your sick deluded mentor was attacking us. Had that not been so I would not at that time come to your forums. Was years since I'd been there, and had forgotten about them
Being attacked by 150 people from FZAOINT, on my own site, would not be a pleasant thing, as you could well imagine
Only 4 posted, plus one who said we were being attacked. Outpoint city
Hey...wait a minute here
BB had said originally:
"On becoming moderator of old FZA message boards, Virginia slanged off various auditors and the whole FZAOINT organisation. When challenged on this she started throwing people off including all 150 approx members of FZAOINT."
Then now BB says to you Paul:
"Only 4 posted, plus one who said we were being attacked
Outpoint city."Outpoint city is right
TRUTH from BB!
It's down from the false 150 that he loves to LIE around the boards about, to 4
We won't quibble with poor BB right now, over his "confusion" on WHO threw off the 4 attackers
LOL
Virginia
Shortly afterwards FZA website imploded. And was gone. This was not done by Ralph Hilton. It was done by the twit trio, and/or sidekick website owner Paul Misunias
No, of course not, You are ALL innocent
You're INNOCENT I tell you! :-)
I know. Who took the website down?
Virginia during these exchanges stated that reducing membership by 83% was an upstat as it would then be a forum that was marcabian and agent free
Yes, that IS true
[snip]
QED
Sick lunatic fucks
bb
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From: VIRGINIAGENERATESENTH...@HOTMAIL.COM (Scooby Doo and Popeye)
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NNTP-Posting-Date: 5 May 2003 07:22:41 GMTIT'S HERE:
http://www.fzint.org/history/osaops.htmScooby Doo said:
VIRGINIA = ENTHETA ENTHETA = VIRGINIA
Popeye said:
JONTU = DAVID GRIFFIN DAVID GRIFFIN = JONTU
VMJ = MORE ENTHETA, MORE OSA, MORE MARKABIANOLOGY!