Gathering Minds

I Respect Your Desire for Peace However...

This posting was made to one of the old Forums here at FZA.ORG and needs little in the way of explanation.

Poster: misiunas
Date: Mon Nov 05, 2001 8:14 pm
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#Subject: "I respect your desire for peace however fza will look like Afghanistan fairly soon."
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Ralph Hilton says on the fzaoint list:

"I respect your desire for peace however fza will look like Afghanistan fairly soon."

Indeed. You and your cohorts have made this so.

With the enormous overwhelm of fzaoint posters pushing their own agenda, I have decided to terminate this Forum. Any discussion of a worthwhile nature may be posted at > http://talk.fza.org

FZAOINT is hereby notified that they ARE NOT invited and will be removed as necessary.

The agents and assigns overloading this forum with ‘flaming cases’ will not be tolerated on the new forum. You all have had a chance to vent your cases, I trust that it was an enjoyable experience for you.

Perhaps the following will help to clear up some the evil intentions around here.

From the fzaoint list:

From: Ralph Hilton
Date: Sat Nov 3, 2001 1:03 am
Subject: Re: [fzaoint] I have come back
On Fri, 02 Nov 2001 21:28:07 -0000 you wrote:


Hi …,

Tommy cut a few people off the list as he wasn’t sure if they were ok or not. I told him that you are ok so all should be ok now.

There were several infiltrators from people who have chosen us as enemies for whatever reason.

There will be some fairly caustic actions with regard to Virginia in the near future.

I respect your desire for peace however fza will look like Afghanistan fairly soon.

Ralph Hilton
http://www.fzint.org/rhilton
Freezone International: http://www.fzint.org
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From: Ralph Hilton
Date: Sat Nov 3, 2001 1:17am
Subject: Re: FZA Board
On Thu, 01 Nov 2001 10:16:24 -0800 you wrote: [this from Tommy]

Morning:

The FZA board has been re-assmed by paul misiunas. Below are a few quotes from his posts.
The boards usefulness has degenerated into a collection of links, and possibly the guestbook entries of people wishing to know more about the bridge.

I will waste no further time posting to the board, it apparently has reached a dead end.

ok.

bb continues to post success stories which is good.

I will take on the witch of the west.

She cannot be allowed to take over that territory with her insanity.

If Paul wants to give her free reign then I’ll take her out and if necessary the www.fza.org site gets fully DA’d. Not with animosity but more like squishing a bug.

The site www.fzint.org was set up last time Paul M. went crazy as a backup.

We didn’t pursue it too heavily as things seemed to get better.

However we have the space and resources to put up a comparable site there.

VAST is a 1.1 asshole from my obs. It seems to be a nest of vipers.

Ralph Hilton http://www.fzint.org/rhilton Freezone International:
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Date: SatNov 3,20019:25 am

Ralph Hilton wrote:

I respect your desire for peace however fza will look like Afghanistan fairly soon.

Actually, I think it will more resemble the back side of the moon.

I have a feeling that the little theta that is there will abandon it by around 80%.

In a very real way, it is quite a relief. Now there is no longer any doubt. I smelled something very fishy going on there.

Now that Citizen Cain and V turn out to be as I said, bt buddies, and the bt is running the board, looks to be rather a exodus of 82 sll over again.

We have way more to worry about just going on about our business of making OTs, making our meters, training and clearing people than to worry about vipers in caves. They will destroy all their com lines and creedence all by themselves.

For me, although I like some of the people in Rons Orgs, it even makes me more aware that we are right in our decision to stick to straight LRH tech, and pretty much ignore the rest.

I wouldnt waste any effort in the direction. They will drive theta to us, and those that cannot distinguish will simply fall prey to ignorance and superstition.

We are not here to save everyone. I signed no contract with any big thetan to save the world complete. Hmm. Seems like I may have heard that line before.

We just go on about our business of making OT’s, and establishing ourselve 10 briefing courses. We will do fine, and now we know one more direction to be wary of.

Tommy

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From: Free Zone Advanced Organization
Date: Sat Nov 3, 2001 9:37am
Subject: Re: FZA Board
Ralph Hilton wrote:

On Thu, 01 Nov 2001 10:16:24 -0800 you wrote:

Morning:

The FZA board has been re-assmed by paul misiunas. Below are a few quotes from his posts.

The boards usefulness has degenerated into a collection of links, and possibly the guestbook entries of people wishing to know more about the bridge.

I will waste no further time posting to the board, it apparently has reached a dead end.

ok.

bb continues to post success stories which is good.

Yes. I will hat him a bit more on the types and ensure he gets more to post, so he is not stuck with stale wins.

I will take on the witch of the west.

Fine with me. No one home far as I can tell. She cannot recognize anything at all.

She cannot be allowed to take over that territory with her insanity.

If Paul wants to give her free reign then I’ll take her out and if necessary the www.fza.org site gets fully DA’d. Not with animosity but more like squishing a bug.

Pretty much.

The site www.fzint.org was set up last time Paul M. went crazy as a backup.

Very good. Well, now it will get some use. BB, Nav 10, can both promote to that url.

Mary can remove the links to fza.org from our fzaoint website.

We didn’t pursue it too heavily as things seemed to get better.

End of that ‘going on hoping’. Mike helped, but that has ended.

However we have the space and resources to put up a comparable site there.

Yep. And make it a live one too, not just a chat board for bank.

VAST is a 1.1 asshole from my obs. It seems to be a nest of vipers.

Hmm. Well, he sent me a very theta communication before, and I dont think he is on the bad guy list. I think his true intentions are to help. I saw the crptic comments, and would agree somewhat with the 1.1.

But, he does seem to have a lot of arc and agreement with the others. Sort of takes on the color of the association.

Regardless, we cannot let FZA just bite the dirt like that. So we simply shift power and attention to the FZINT board.

We have the entirety of the useful data that is on fza in the first place. Nothing to stop us from continuing on with never a missed stride..

In fact, it seems like a whole new fun game! We can use it to send new people to, broadly promote it to everyone, and that way the fzaoint board will be relieved of much of the chatter and good wishes and so forth , leaving the list more dedicated to getting clear and ot.

Its a bright new sunny day. So wonderful when one is out of doubt about something.

Tommy


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Date: SatNov 3,20017:43 pm

Good Morning:

Another bright day in City of Angels. Rained a bit, and the smog is all gone. The FZA board is aligning nicely, it is sort of in valence, Mike Hunsaker is off the lines, and we are relieved of dev-t.

Ralph intends to put in place the fzaint website. This should be a very powerful theta move. FZA since its inception has been dissemiating all sorts of various "brands" of scientology, and it is no real surprise that it would collapse.

Date: SunNov 4,20018:28 pm

On Mon, 05 Nov 2001 03:27:00 +1000 you wrote:

Paul posted this yesterday. I don’t know if this means the board can no longer be READ by anyone not signing up, but it does seem to mean that all the messages on it at the present will be LOST when the change is made.

After posting something critical of Virginia and some of her statements I found that I was unable to access the fza.org site through my usual IP address.

If anyone has similar problems with being banned then I can give them access to other addresses. Their use does require moderate computer literacy.

Ralph Hilton http://www.fzint.org/rhilton Freezone International:
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note: Ralph was never banned, but a few of his operatives were.