Mike Hunsaker : The Good, the Bad and the Ugly
15 Dec 2011
This is a work-in-progress which has been delayed for quite some time and the only reason I am finally making it public is to be rid of it. I dislike having to come up with this sort of accounting and so this article will most likely never become finalized.
Contents
Purpose
This is a collection of data related to Mike Hunsaker and his FreeZone America website. The purpose of this timeline and commentary is to put into perspective the historical aspect of Mike’s experience with the Free Zone America website. Do you see the subtle difference there? If not continuing reading and it should become quite clear.
A note before the undertaking. In many ways Mike is being used here as a focal point in order to draw attention to a few other beings who have also been caught with their hand in the cookie jar, so to speak. But the center point is Mike as he is the point man either in conscious willfulness or inattentive agreement - it doesn’t really matter which as the effects are what is being brought to bear. Let’s begin.
In the Beginning
1998
Mike’s beginning came to light on March 27, 1998 at 18:37:47 on the Free Zone America Bulletin Board. His birth or first post lacked any introductory information but perhaps it was meant only to establish an apparent position among the posters in his famous dress of ‘being helpful’.
27 Mar 1998
Author: Mike
Posted: Mar 27 1998 06:37 pm
Subject: Re Mission H. Conf.In Reply to: Re Mission H. Conf. posted by Ed on March 27, 1998 at 09:45:44:
Dear ID and Ed,
It was SO ED 2104 INT and it is webbed at http://www.freezone.org/e_mhcsf.htm
If memory serves there were two versions of this issue, the one webbed above and an unrevised version with various members of the audience being declared on the spot.
About Kingsleys “squirrel” process, is this the same one that he refered to as “dinging”? As in the little dings you will get on a car, but these are the ones that happen to you. If so I remember a meeting after that, may have been in LA, where everyone was told how wrong it was and that the people responsible had been declared.
Mike
-acknowledgments
Continuing to be helpful Mike offers up the schematics of Ralph Hilton’s ( of all people ) e-meter:
01 May 1998
Author: mike
Posted: May 01 1998 05:20 pm
Subject: Re: The Galactic PatrolIn Reply to: The Galactic Patrol posted by Kevin on April 30, 1998 at 18:03:49:
Kevin,
Good luck on your project.
About building your own meter you might want to look at:
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~dst/Secrets/E-Meter/Hilton/emeter.htm
It has some thought on meters and his scematics.
Mike
-The Galactic Patrol
And then Mike starts to come out a little bit about his future plans:
04 May 1998
Author: mike
Posted: May 04 1998 11:25 pm
Subject: Re: The Galactic PatrolIn Reply to: The Galactic Patrol posted by Kevin on April 30, 1998 at 18:03:49:
Kevin,
I like your idea about forming a “squirrel” mission. It seems like you would do best if you could get some or even one well trained auditor who is capable of delivering red on white tech, TROM, L. Kin’s bridge, the Pilot’s material, Metapsychology and as much other FZ processes as possible. I wonder how many people out their could fill this.
Another thought on this matter would be to see if you could obtain hat write-ups of the scn. mission holders that were successful prior to the SF Mission Holders Conference. Many of these missions were very successful until RTC stomped ’em. Without research the only successful Mission Holders that I am aware of are Alan Walters and Kingsley Wimbush. Anyone know of others?
Kevin, you are in R.I., correct?
Mike
-The Galactic Patrol
Mike then gets an inquiry about himself and he answers:
05 May 1998 (a)
Author: mike
Posted: May 05 1998 08:49 am
Subject: Re: The Galactic PatrolIn Reply to: Re: The Galactic Patrol posted by Kevin on May 05, 1998 at 07:29:08:
Kevin,
I'm in the Bay Area, San Fransico, CA. My purpose? Now that is a tough one. Lets just take one part of it for now — that part that involves Clearing. I would like to be more active in Clearing others, however what training I do have is self taught, I had no tech courses in the church, only admin. That was a loss for me and another story all together. I am working on myself thru the Pilot’s Self Clearing Book.
If the church would get its sh*;t together and be the organization most of us thought it should and could be, that would be wonderful. But even with people like the Pilot working behind the scenes I really doubt that this will happen. Next best are FZ Missions like you talked about. (By the way did you see my comment on this posted in this thread at 23:25:24 on May 5th?) I think it would be best if the FZ practitioners would work together in a loosly organized network. This has been proposed before on clear-l and in the FZ magazines Free Spirit Journal and International Viewpoints (IVy). But it has never gotten off of the ground, I believe because of the many different viewpoints and different versions of FZ tech. Also some of us may still have a button on “organizations”. I believe David Mayo tried this with his Advanced Ability Centers, there were several, but the “church” shut him down and unfortunatly silenced him in the process.
There are a lot of trained auditors out there in the field that blew or were declared in the insanity of the RTC, Finance Police, etc. I often wonder where they are today. I understand there were several Class Xs, XIs and XIIs. Wonder what happened to them. I've never seen them on the net. Maybe Ken Urquhart, but I don’t remember his training level. Anyway, there is a vast pool of auditors out there. Maybe one day they will stumble across The FZ America Page — which I think has done alot for the FZ, second only to Homer Wilson Smith.
Mike
-The Galactic Patrol
Now we see that Mike is feeling much more safe so he comes out of the closet even more as he positions himself. His early interest in establishing an organization for delivery is noteworthy. Notice also that last sentence, how he begins his set-up in regard to the Free Zone America website. Let’s see how his coming out progresses.
Continuing his role of being helpful:
05 May 1998 (b)
Author: mike
Posted: May 05 1998 11:08 am
Subject: Re: The Galactic PatrolIn Reply to: Re: The Galactic Patrol posted by Kevin on May 05, 1998 at 10:50:25:
Kevin,
Have you tried getting in comm with Ralph? He used to work at repairing meters for the church. Maybe he can help.
Have you read what the Pilot says in appendix A about using a meter?
And to re-ask my previous questions:
Have you read my post in this thread on 5 May at 23:25:24?
Are you in Rhode Island?
Mike
-The Galactic Patrol
Ever helpful Mike continues:
08 May 1998
Author: mike
Posted: May 08 1998 09:56 am
Subject: Re: SuppressivesHi ID32,
I'm not sure I understand this. What kind of things are you refering to? Most, if not all of the Bridge is available on the internet or in the FZ somewhere.
Related to this, has anyone noticed that for the past month or so in promo OT 1 has been refered to as NEW OT 1? Anyone know what is new, if anything?
Mike
-Suppressives
I'll not include each and every post showing the transition from ‘helpful’ to being the ‘go-to’ man but Mike is obviously positioning himself to gain authority. He is, after all, on a mission to be part of an organization where he can use his Admin training to help clear people. Sounds noble doesn’t it?
Donating for the Higher Good
Early in 1998 I included, in fine print, the following on the "About Us" page at fza.org:
In case you are feeling generous and wish to contribute financially, donations are always welcome. Donations must be made to Paul Misiunas at the above address. It’s possible that in time, FZA will be incorporated as a non-profit organization, but until then, please make donations to the above individual. Currently, donations are used to offset the cost of our web host provider. You may earmark your donation otherwise.
-fza.org: About Us
The request for donations was left on that page for about a year or so and the only donation ever received came from… you guessed it, Mike Hunsaker in the amount of $50. Looking back surely there must be more to this than simple co-incidence.
It was during this time period that I began to pull away from the website:
Why Was FZA Created?
…
One of these purposes has been to get into communication with awake beings.
…I can also report that I have noticed that the number of awake beings is not as great as I had first thought.
-fza.org: About Us
I am including the above here so that one may get a perspective as to why or how fza.org was turned over to Mike.
In my search for someone to take over fza.org there we no serious takers until I called Mike and asked if he wanted to take control of FZA since he was the only one to make a donation to FZA. He accepted and I sent him all the files I had for the site including Paint Shop Pro and Visual Page which were used in developing the images and format of the website. I would have passed over to him the domain registration but at the time the process to do that was confusing so I left as it was. Mike never pursued it.
The exact date of this transition is uncertain but according to the earliest post made by mike@fza.org it would have taken place around mid-1999 and after this post I made to alt.clearing.technology explaining my position:
1999
27 Apr 1999
FZA.ORG: The State of Case, a personal report
Author: Paul Misiunas From: misiunas@fza.org (Paul Misiunas) Subject: FZA.ORG: The State of Case, a personal report Date: 1999/04/27
…
The psychosis runs deep, from the newsgroups to discussion boards, to chat rooms. The attention seems to be on the psychosis and not on a higher spiritual level. As a result, the state of affairs remains basically unchanged.
Here is the date stamp from the earliest post made to the FZA Discussion Board by ‘mike@fza.org’:
23 Jun 1999
2000: Free Zone America Discussion Board -> Church of Scientology -> Pro Scientology Discussion Group:
Author: Mike [mike@fza.org]
Posted: Wed 23 Jun 1999 12:17 am
It was later in that same year that Mike expressed an interest in, and was sent, my entire Scientology library collection as well as an e-meter, copies of various Articles of Incorporation that I obtained from the State of California, Filbert’s Excalibur Revisited and more - everything I had concerning the subject of Scientology.
On the old forum, I had said that I have no Scientology materials in my possession. It’s true, because a few years back I sent everything that I had to Mike Hunsaker, the ex-webmaster of fza. He even got a free e-meter. Lovely Christmas gifts! (1)Well, he did pay $100 for book-rate shipping cross country.
-Books And Stuff, 16 Nov 2001
Quietly Working in the Background
2000
Quietly working in the background with Tommy Thompson, Mike involves himself with some interesting endeavors. (2)04 May 2000
Date: Thu, 04 May 2000 21:13:55 -0700
From: Tommy Thompson <pthorn1@pacbell.net>
Subject: [FZA-L] Charter
To: List one <fza-l@fza.org>…
I may not know some of you, but if you are here, you are here on a help flow, therefore, untill proven different, my friends.
Secrecy is not the point here. Disgression is. To this end, I request that this charter not be forwarded to act, but do so in its final form.
Act does not get a vote as to gets in here.
Of course, any petition will be reviewed, and every chance given to others to contribute, and or recant.
The purpose of this letter is to try and propose a charter off the top of my head. An orgaization flows particles. These particles flow in channels of agreement. This charter is a proposed agreement of the rules of communication of the group. Feel free to add, slash or bitch.
Charter for FZA List One
This list has come about primiraly to develop, disseminate, test and apply the existing technologies of the being known as L. Ron Hubbard toward the proposed expanded technologies of the being known to us as Revinus.
We may look at ourselves as the testing bed for application of the technology that we now have toward this new data.
We have authority to publish with unlimited right to re-dristribute any and all of the technology that he has the ability to impart to us.
Therefore, we are HCO. In this case RCO.
Sufficient policy exists on the subject of organization to not need much attention in this charter.
FZA therefore is granted by this body to act in full power and authority to act as FZAWW RCO. Michael Hunsaker is promoted to CS6.
(all in favor say aye) (passed)…
So now we know who is in charge of fza.org - it’s Tommy Thompson via Mike Hunsaker! Remember, Mike is in full knowledge and control of both the fza website and the fza-l mailing list.
I am putting a few postings made Tommy Thompson here in order to put things into perspective. These postings clearly define what Mike Hunsaker will be doing with the fza.org website. As you read these keep in mind that the ‘Revenius’ identity that is being referred to is none other than Ralph Hilton who, amazingly enough, was posting to this very same mailing list as well. (5)07 May 2000
From: “Tommy Thompson” <tommythompson@freewwweb.com>
To: fza-l@fza.org
Date: Sun, 7 May 2000 00:17:07 -0700
Subject: [FZA-L] (Fwd) Hatting Authority
Sender: owner-fza-l@fza.org
Reply-To: fza-l@fza.org“Tommy Thompson” <tommythompson@freewwweb.com> to fza-l
------- Forwarded message follows -------
From: Tommy Thompson <tommythompson@freewwweb.com>
To: fza-l@fza.org
Subject: Hatting Authority
Date sent: Sun, 7 May 2000 00:13:25 -0700REVENIUS COMMUNICATIONS OFFICE
RCO WW
RCO POLICY LETTER OF MAY 2000
Internal reissue
All hats
Central Processing Groups
RCO AREA OFFICEA RCO expedites internal and external communications and in particular communications to and from Revenius, along with the technologies of LRH.
As part of communications supervision it hat checks into existence with members RCO Bulletins, official releases, HCOPL’s, and HCOB’s.
It issues and keeps to date the organization hats. RCO keeps the Org Board.
Fundamentally it is also a library of technical and administrative data consisting of books, mimeos, tapes and general know-how.
RCO Area has the power to take action to maintain a high technical level, a good administrative form in the organization and to qualify personnel.
It reaches broad masses of the public where a Processing/Training Group reaches individual members of the public.
The whole activity of RCO is Communication, Collection, Technical Dissemination, Administrative Form, Ethics, Certificates and Awards.
It is also responsible for broad promotion and dissemination such as webbing new technology and procedures, posting new data to usenet, Recruiting members for groups, and facilitating application of technology.
Tommy Thompson
temp hats i/c
Yes, Ralph Hilton is on the move, pulling the puppet strings from afar. Ralph, with Tommy’s blessings, have plans for fza.org. Nothing like dividing up the spoils.
07 May 2000
Date: Sun, 07 May 2000 12:16:01 -0700
From: Tommy Thompson <pthorn1@pacbell.net>
Subject: [FZA-L] Valuable Final Products - To: List one <fza-l@fza.org>
Reply-To: fza-l@fza.orgTommy Thompson <pthorn1@pacbell.net> to fza-l
In order to form up some sort of org, bd, it is necessary to determine the vfp of the activity, and then work out all the chanells and flows that contribute to the vfp.
Valuable Final Products of RCOWW:
Dissemination of the technology of Revinus.
…
Did you get that? Mike is responsible, as a working member of Tommy’s organization, to use the fza.org website for:
Dissemination of the technology of Revinus.
This gets interesting but a bit off tangent. Tommy’s charter for the FZA Tech List gets updated with some pretty interesting changes occurring. Let’s take a look at these goings on for just a tad longer.
08 May 2000
Date: Mon, 08 May 2000 18:41:36 -0700
From: Tommy Thompson <pthorn1@pacbell.net>
Subject: [FZA-L] Charter
To: List one <fza-l@fza.org>
Message-id: <39176CD0.7DCF1C83@pacbell.net>
Sender: owner-fza-l@fza.org
Reply-To: fza-l@fza.orgTommy Thompson <pthorn1@pacbell.net> to fza-l
The purpose of this letter is to propose a charter. An organization flows particles. These particles flow in channels of agreement. This charter is a description of the rules of communication of the group.
Charter for FZA Tech List
Preamble:This list has come about primarily to develop, disseminate, test and apply the existing technologies of the being known as L. Ron Hubbard toward the proposed expanded technologies of the being known to us as Revenius. It was created by his specific request to avoid the noise and distractions to tech development.
We may look at ourselves as the think tank for clarification of the application of the technology that we now have concerning this new data.
We have authority to publish with unlimited right to redistribute any and all of the technology that he has the ability to impart to us, signed by him, and in his absence, his communicator Ralph Hilton, or any other terminal he may designate and transmit his pgp signature to for that explicit purpose.
BYLAWS
1. Any being is as valuable as he can communicate. The clarity of his communication toward forwarding the purpose of the group is the degree of his value to this group. The purpose of the list is clarification, development, testing and distribution of expanded and/or new technology.2. We are to safeguard the identity of the one known to us as Revenius. As he does not wish to be known, this group is hereby set up to act as a limited discussion group, where he may post anon.
3. There is to be no hidden data line. We have learned the folly of that. But there also does not have to be entheta back up the line of source. We are here to flow theta data, and to filter entheta and distractions. The senior purpose is the dissemination of the technology developed and/or clarified by the group.
4. Any being can petition the group to join. We are always willing to communicate. His/her petition will be evaluated solely on his/her ability to contribute to the overall forwarding of the purpose.
5. This Group is nondenominational. Any person from any system of belief is of equal importance here. However, their contributions may be limited by their knowledge of the technologies of lrh, and its application.
6. That all beings have their right to their own belief in all matters spiritual. Any being may leave that wishes because of any reason, with no fear of recrimination.
7. New ideas, processes, wins, pc and pre-ot viewpoints, references, clarifications, questions, and answers are all welcome here, as they relate to the technologies, research, or applications under discussion.
8. This is not a group formed for personal chatter, idle thoughts or extraneous comments. Sufficient lines exist outside of the group to handle these communications. As the output of the group is broadly disseminated, any or all who have agreement, disagreement, comments or evaluations can freely do so in other communication channels.
Tommy Thompson
8 may 2000
Yes, it looks like Ralph Hilton is definitely on the move pulling the strings of Tommy who is pulling the strings of Mike.
It didn’t take long before Mike had trouble or that perhaps the truth of it all began it’s merry way to the fore.
20 Jun 2000
Author: Michael the Angel (131.187.97.227 - 131.187.97.227) Posted: Tues 20 Jun 2000 12:58 pm
Hi Mike,
It seems that something has changed. Let me know if you are still around. Leave a post so that others may have your assurance that OSA hasn’t taken over. Once you have done this give me a call at 1 (937) 254-3071 and If I'm not there leave a message. Once I have verified your safety I will notify everyone else here that you are OK. I am concerned too, and if you don’t call I will notify everyone here, I don’t know what that will do… but unless you intend to shut down the FZA site it might be a good time to drop me a line. Unless I hear from you in three days time I will assume one of three things.
1. You are unable to respond
2. You are unwilling to respond
3. You are in troubleJohn Michael Reese
-To Mike Hunsaker
and Mike’s reply:
17 Jul 2000
Author: Fza (Fza) [mike@fza.org] (207.179.15.95 - 207.179.15.95)
Posted: Mon 17 Jul 2000 10:05 pmHey Angel and everyone else,
Apologizes for the comm lag. Comments like yours above are not helping anything. Please desist.
As to your 3 reasons above as to why I haven’t responded lately, you’re batting .1000! All have applied and some still do.
But, none are from external influences. All come from me. I least I think they do. I've been wrong before. Time will tell.
I will try to be in more communication here over the next few days, part of the six steps to better beingness which I need to do. Reference is from Tech Vol 3, I believe.
’Til tomorrow,
Mike
-To Mike Hunsaker
More helpful responses by Mike and then due to the apparent disinterest of Mike in keeping the website current, especially in allowing the fza.org domain name to expire, I took back control of FZA. I came up with a new layout and structure where visitors could interact to a much greater degree than the old format but it soon became obvious that this was something neither needed nor wanted. (Keep in mind here Tommy’s embrace of working ‘quietly in the background’. There is more to this but let’s not dally…) I returned the site to how Mike left it and gave control back to him.
2001
20 Feb 2001
2001: Free Zone America Forum -> Open Discussion
Author: mike
Posted: Tues Feb 20 2001 01:27 amHi all,
As many of you may have noticed the new site is gone. You can read why at:
http://fza.org/notice.html
Also there are a few bugs with putting the old site back — dead links — things like that. They’ll be fixed over time, but please, if you notice something that is not working let me know.
Mike
mike@fza.org
-The Old New Site or the New Old Site
Here is what the referenced page contained:
13 Feb 2001
Current Message: 13 Feb 2001
(This message was originally posted as “Status Report: Self Reflection” on the now non-existent new format.)
Now that the new format has been up and running for a while, it’s time to reflect upon the format’s original purpose and how successful that purpose is in the ‘real’ world. The ‘real’ world I am talking about is how the visitors to fza respond to the viability of the site in regard to their needs.
One of the main purposes of this new format was to create a community type of atmosphere where Free Zoners could come together, in open communication, to share clearing technology, it’s concepts, news, personal insights - just about anything and everything that had to do with clearing. This has been a total failure.
Despite the fact that the number of user registrations continues to climb at a steady pace, the bottom line is that visitors to this site are not interested in participating in the FZ community concept as demonstrated by FZA through the use of the new format. This, in itself, tells me that the old format sufficiently met the needs of visitors.
To this end, the old format will most likely be reinstated not just for the above reason, but also because the old format requires much less attention on the webmaster’s part. The daily attention of the new format becomes superfluous in the arena of disinterest.
Even though the new format has proved to be a failure, I am glad to have had the opportunity to field test the FZ community concept. Thanks for bearing with me.
Paul Misiunas
* As an update, FZA will be returning to the stewardship of Mike Hunsaker.
fza.org was back in Mike’s court. Let’s see how he does with it. Notice the new-found motivation to do something with the website. At this point I am not aware of what Mike is doing in the background with Tommy Thompson.
01 Mar 2001
Author: mike
Posted: Thur Mar 01 2001 07:56 pmHi folks,
I, and I am sure Paul does too, really appreciate these comments. I can’t really speak for Paul, as we live several thousand miles apart and don’t have much face to face time. But (yeah there is always a but) I DO think he appreciates those who liked the other site. He, and I, were disappointed by the lack of response to it, which I believe is (was) created by the folks fear of the dreaded cofs kung fu fighting lawyer squad.
I will be updating this site and btw fileclerk I don’t think the original site was to simple :-)
Eternity, the old new site is there. What type of site would you like to see?
There will be changes and improvements to the site, not just the board, in the future. Some of you my have expected them to happen already. Well, I did to. But, I burned out my motherboard last week and today is the first day I have been back. My how the e-mail mounts up!
Any suggestions or ideas will be appreciated. You know where to reach me, if not see below.
ARC,
Mike
mike@fza.org
-The Old New Site or the New Old Site
Now the above post by Mike is quite interesting, especially this:
…and don’t have much face to face time.
Considering that I have never met Mike face-to-face his words obviously do not reflect the truth. This is a major out-point. But let’s leave all that behind…
Continuing his traditional helpful manner Mike continues to post.
19 Mar 2001
Author: mike
Posted: Mon Mar 19 2001 08:34 pmYou can get info on meters on FZA at:
http://fza.org/refer/resource.html
On on Ralph’s site at:
http://www.fzint.org/e-meters/index.htm
Mike
mike@fza.org
-Who Are We?
I'll not include each and every post as that would be too much to bear, but here is one more.
24 May 2001
Author: mike
Posted: Thur May 24 2001 08:58 pmHey all,
I hope Tommy’s point wasn’t missed. If it was I will repeat it:
“Go get a pc. Give an assist. Give a locational to a drunk.Handle an arcx for someone. Ask what solutions have you had for that problem to the troubled. Go read your poetry at an old folks home. Give a karate demonstration for the kids. Do something. Be effective. Charge up your meter, fly someone’s ruds. Read a book, listen to a tape, increase your understanding and ability. Don’t lay down. We all are counting on you, I am counting on you most of all. I need you to be free so I can be free.”
Mike
mike@fza.org
-Repost From ACT: FZCOB
Here comes the Tommy talk. Shortly thereafter Tommy had this to say about Mike:
From: Free Zone Advanced Organization <fzaola@pacbell.net>
Organization: Free Zone Advanced Organization Los Angeles
Newsgroups: alt.clearing.technology
Subject: Commendation Michael Hunsaker
Date: Wed, 13 Jun 2001 18:21:40 -0700Free Zone AOWW Communication Office
FZ AO International
Free Zone Advanced Organization Los Angeles
FZ AO Int Executive Directive 7 June 2001
BPI
cc:Personel
-------- CommendationMichael Hunsaker is to be highly commended for his actions and his integrity and ability to make things go right.
He is webmaster of Free Zone America. This website has disseminated information to thousands of beings who have been in search of life after the church.
He puts in long hours and does an excellent job with little or no pay.
He maintains and contributes on lists that are some of the secure on earth, and will directly affect the spiritual freedom of mankind one day.
He does not complain, he does not justify mistakes whether real or imagined. He works quietly in the background and seldom gets an acknowledgement for the marvelous and vital job that he is doing.
He is motivated by the highest motivation of all, duty.
He maintains his position, even when there is little hope of further auditing or training or spiritual enhancement available to him in his area, with never a complaint or whine about conditions.
He has always remained willing to help others in need, and does not seek reward or compensation other than that of fair excange.
He has worked tirelessly maintaining open communication lines for others, far above his “case” level, and produces good product, with seldom an overt product in them. He can be entrusted to maintain confidentality and has not broken security with confidential data even once.
As the most workable definiton of OT is Cause, Michael is definately OT, he is cause, and not a victim. By his actions and his products he has demonstrated a level of cause that many “OT’s” should envy, all done with a burden of case that would swamp a lesser being complete.
For this reason, any case qualifications for any admin post that he may wish to hold, or may be promoted to is waived, depending only upon HCO Int approval. In tech posts, he may not audit above his case level, and this commendation and executive waiver is not applicable.
In gratitude and recognition for his dedication and ability, he issues hereby awarded 25 hours of auditing time, to be delivered in the FZAOLA at his discrection. He is also awarded training to Class 0 in the same organization.
----
Tommy Thompson
ED FZAO Int.
Tommy has a way of twisting words so as to hide the real meaning behind what he is saying. It becomes quite easy for the unaware reader to take this garbage in with complete acceptance and perhaps go so far as to thank Tommy for the pleasure. Let’s summarize what Tommy is really saying about Mike:
- works long hours with little to no pay ( I wonder why Tommy doesn’t pay Mike a decent wage? ) and doesn’t complain about it
- doesn’t justify real or imaged (thank goodness!) mistakes
- works quietly in the background well
- is duty bound to Tommy
- is okay with not being allowed to spiritually progress
- sometimes produces overt products
- hasn’t broken security yet even once (yikes!)
- has a burdensome case which would swamp even an ot
Nothing like a pat on the back from the Master. Good doggie!
I'd like to interject something here about Mike’s webmaster duties which it seems Tommy holds in high regard.
…
When Mike Hunsaker was webmaster for FZA for a time, among the crimes that I noticed was that FZA appeared on a web site as a reference. What is wrong with that you ask? It was a reference as to the worst web sites on the Internet. Specifically, it was a page where blue lettering appeared on a background of blue sky and clouds. It was visually unreadable. Sheesh!
Of course not everyone is skilled at being a webmaster, but pure common sense dictates that if you can’t read something, there must be something wrong! I guess Mike now likes my stuff better than his own. He should.
Now the real fun begins as Mike comes out of the closet in his drive to push Tommy’s agenda.
And then a change in agenda (or perhaps a more overt display) which creates this interesting forward movement.
14 Jul 2001
Author: mike
Posted: Sat Jul 14 2001 07:11 pmHey Kevin,
A few points on the above I would like to bring up.
Quoting you:
“I can’t see a need for a mass marketing campaign, or for a facility that offers professional auditing (auditors on post as JUNIORS to the Admin Terminals).”I agree with your point about auditors being junior to tech terminals. If you review some of the qualification policy in OEC Vol. 1 I think it will show that it wasn’t originally planned that way. Example:
(Fair use quote follows)
“The requirement for Senior Execs such as Exec Secs, Secs, LRH Comms, Ethics Officers and Div 1 Dept 1, as well as good Ethics records, good stats on post, is that they are technically trained to SHSBC level and are OT III.”HCO PL 30 Sept 1968
But that is not by Ron, just for Ron by CS-7. So I really don’t know if Ron told her to write it or what. Makes you wonder though if that policy had been enforced how much things would be different today.
Quoting you again:
“Then, when the person leaves the training facility, they go back to their community clear and on the way up higher, they have experience taking someone else up, and they can help anyone in their area that wants help. When that person wants concentrated help, they can also go to the training facility, or they could apprentice to the person who had been there. If the tech is good, the word will spread like wildfire. Thus, it would come down to a network of auditors and C/S's. The FreeZone is good, that way, but it lacks a powerhouse training facility, not organized to make money, but organized to make auditors.”I can’t really speak for Tommy, but that is my vision for the FZ AOs and I think it is his.
Realize that what Tommy is doing is just starting, he has very little staff. That is changing. I see co-audits in the future. People pulling themselves up the bridge by their bootstraps.
If the FZ AOs only process people they will fail.
To quote you once more:
“I am glad that the FZAOs are out there, btw, but I see them as professional auditing services. I have seen lots of announcements concerning people going clear and OT, but I would be more impressed by BC co-audit completions. If that were available, (and by available, I don’t mean only if you have 25000 dollars), I would already be there.”To restate what I said above: If the FZAOs only act as “professional auditing services” they will fail. We will be much better off training and then having the person co-audit. It is the only way we will succeed.
The FZAOs are about freeing people, making them more aware. We can do that, the church can’t. Why? Because we are a safe space. If you say ANYTHING in session you have no fear of being declared or of someone going through your folders later and copying your session data for further use. Still don’t feel safe? Fine, you can have the worksheets from the session that you got some overts off in and we will have an overt burning party.
The point is to provide you with a place to get up the bridge AND get trained. The second part of that is the most important.
Get in touch with Tommy, see what it will take to be a BC completion. I would love to see you as the first FZ BC auditor.
We can use your help.
ARC,
Mike
mike@fza.org
-Help
Yes, "Get in touch with Tommy". Join us!
Continuning to make his case for Tommy Thompson’s FZAO’s:
04 Aug 2001 (a)
Author: mike
Posted: Sat Aug 04 2001 08:08 pmHi pinolero,
Glad you made it back Ok. Your experience at the FZAO was so uplifting to me that I pulled one of your posts on this forum about what happened there and reposted it to all of those that are involved in the FZAO. I wanted them to see that what is happening here is real and wonderful. Not just posts on some board, but people really going out there and doing something.
Thank you Victor.
Mike
mike@fza.org
-I am going to FZAOLA!
Ratcheting up the emotion and business:
04 Aug 2001 (b)
Author: mike
Posted: Sat Aug 04 2001 08:56 pmHi folks,
Lotsa intense conversation above. I'll comment on two points.
John (gotta love him, he is persistent) sez:
“A Clear has the ability to shrug off somatic and reactive influxes generated by faulty gene sequences and transferred as collective thought waves, neurotransmissions, and somatic images.”
I don’t know about the second part of that sentence, that is not real to me. But the first part “a Clear has the ability” may need to be addressed. Yes, a Clear has many abilities, but due to other postulates which he hasn’t dealt with he may not choose to “shrug off… etc.” A Clear has the ability to do many things, but he may not. Other things may impinge. A perfectly healthy person may be able to walk after his foot is broken, but it hurts to do so. So he doesn’t. As well the Clear, he may be able to walk through life unscathed but he chooses not to as it hurts somewhere inside to much. There is much to handle after Clear. The main thing a Clear understands is that it is him who is responsible, not others.
Point 2 is this: Discussion of all of this is well and good, but what are you doing for yourself and others? Those who have been on this board for a while will recognize this rant of mine. Are you auditing and training or just talking about it? If not, why not? Vincent is moving up the bridge. So are others. Are you just talking about it or are you doing something? Some are, but the many aren’t. It is all there available to us. It may not last for long. Cut the talk and DO something.
Mike
mike@fza.org
-A Link Between Awareness and the Human Genome
Here the overt intent becomes quite evident.
I like the following post because it shows how Ralph Hilton had nothing to say at all about the fza.org website or Mike. No 'cut all links to fza.org’ or 'scum bag!’ comments. Sure, 9-11 was a major event but turning the website black!? What about all those poor souls who depend on it! I'm scandalized - absolutely shocked! (said in my best ironic voice).
See the 2005 entry entitled “Freedom Of Expression” below for a bit more information.
18 Sep 2001
Author: mike
Posted: Tues Sep 18 2001 10:14 pmRudy,
Yes, the homepage did turn black. It is not a glitch. Nor is it anyone’s method of forcing you to interiorize into the events of the eleventh.
It is related to current events. And the beings involved should have their upset handled. And the beings involved are ALL beings here on our quaint little Earth. And yes, everyone should continue up the bridge.
Turning the homepage black had nothing to do with whether or not someone was ‘stuck’ in the incident.
The homepage is black out of respect for those who lost their game.
The homepage is black because the thetans on the flight that crashed outside of Pittsburg gave their lives for the good of what they believed in.
The homepage is black because others will probably die because of what we believe in.
The homepage is black because we as free beings were unable to prevent the 11th.
The homepage is black because maybe if we tried harder the 11th would not have happened.
The homepage is black because this should be a warning and not a challange.
The homepage is black because clouds did not seem appropriate.
I'm sorry it bothered you.
Mike
mike@fza.org
-Black background on Homepage
The downward slide begins while the focus shifts to Tommy Thompson’s FZAOLA. This is not what fza.org is about, the website was not created to push any single agenda - especially the agenda of an individual whose intentions are so clearly self aggrandizing as that of Tommy Thompson. Since the ownership of fza.org was in my hands I moved the domain over to a new server expressly to shut out Mike’s access. This enraged Mike.
Let’s take a breather and see how Ralph and Tommy are enjoying themselves. Remember as you read this that Mike is in full agreement with these two posters. What they are proposing, and doing, is really quite a shocker when you think about it.
The Take-Down
05 Nov 2001 (a)
I Respect Your Desire for Peace However…
This posting was made to one of the old Forums here at FZA.ORG and needs little in the way of explanation.
Poster: misiunas
Date: Mon Nov 05, 2001 8:14 pm
#-------------
#Subject: “I respect your desire for peace however fza will look like Afghanistan fairly soon.”
#-------------Ralph Hilton says on the fzaoint list:
“I respect your desire for peace however fza will look like Afghanistan fairly soon.”
Indeed. You and your cohorts have made this so.
With the enormous overwhelm of fzaoint posters pushing their own agenda, I have decided to terminate this Forum. Any discussion of a worthwhile nature may be posted at > http://talk.fza.org
FZAOINT is hereby notified that they ARE NOT invited and will be removed as necessary.
The agents and assigns overloading this forum with ‘flaming cases’ will not be tolerated on the new forum. You all have had a chance to vent your cases, I trust that it was an enjoyable experience for you.
Perhaps the following will help to clear up some the evil intentions around here.
From the fzaoint list:
From: Ralph Hilton
Date: Sat Nov 3, 2001 1:03 am
Subject: Re: [fzaoint] I have come back
On Fri, 02 Nov 2001 21:28:07 -0000 you wrote: | | …
| Hi …, | Tommy cut a few people off the list as he wasn’t sure if they were ok or not. I told him that you are ok so all should be ok now.There were several infiltrators from people who have chosen us as enemies for whatever reason.
There will be some fairly caustic actions with regard to Virginia in the near future.
I respect your desire for peace however fza will look like Afghanistan fairly soon.
—
Ralph Hilton
http://www.fzint.org/rhilton
Freezone International: http://www.fzint.org
C-Meter: http://www.inquisitive-instruments.co.uk/
#==================================================
From: Ralph Hilton
Date: Sat Nov 3, 2001 1:17am
Subject: Re: FZA Board
On Thu, 01 Nov 2001 10:16:24 -0800 you wrote: [this from Tommy]Morning:
The FZA board has been re-assmed by paul misiunas. Below are a few quotes from his posts.
The boards usefulness has degenerated into a collection of links, and possibly the guestbook entries of people wishing to know more about the bridge.I will waste no further time posting to the board, it apparently has reached a dead end.
ok.
bb continues to post success stories which is good.
I will take on the witch of the west.
She cannot be allowed to take over that territory with her insanity.
If Paul wants to give her free reign then I'll take her out and if necessary the www.fza.org site gets fully DA’d. Not with animosity but more like squishing a bug. The site www.fzint.org was set up last time Paul M. went crazy as a backup. (6)
We didn’t pursue it too heavily as things seemed to get better.
However we have the space and resources to put up a comparable site there.
VAST is a 1.1 asshole from my obs. It seems to be a nest of vipers.
Ralph Hilton http://www.fzint.org/rhilton Freezone International:
http://www.fzint.org</ C-Meter: http://www.inquisitive-instruments.co.uk/
#==================================================
Date: SatNov 3,20019:25 am
Ralph Hilton wrote:
I respect your desire for peace however fza will look like Afghanistan fairly soon.
Actually, I think it will more resemble the back side of the moon.
I have a feeling that the little theta that is there will abandon it by around 80%.
In a very real way, it is quite a relief. Now there is no longer any doubt. I smelled something very fishy going on there.
Now that Citizen Cain and V turn out to be as I said, bt buddies, and the bt is running the board, looks to be rather a exodus of 82 sll over again.
We have way more to worry about just going on about our business of making OTs, making our meters, training and clearing people than to worry about vipers in caves. They will destroy all their com lines and creedence all by themselves.
For me, although I like some of the people in Rons Orgs, it even makes me more aware that we are right in our decision to stick to straight LRH tech, and pretty much ignore the rest.
I wouldnt waste any effort in the direction. They will drive theta to us, and those that cannot distinguish will simply fall prey to ignorance and superstition.
We are not here to save everyone. I signed no contract with any big thetan to save the world complete. Hmm. Seems like I may have heard that line before.
We just go on about our business of making OT’s, and establishing ourselve 10 briefing courses. We will do fine, and now we know one more direction to be wary of.
Tommy
#==================================================
From: Free Zone Advanced Organization
Date: Sat Nov 3, 2001 9:37am
Subject: Re: FZA Board
Ralph Hilton wrote:On Thu, 01 Nov 2001 10:16:24 -0800 you wrote:
Morning:
The FZA board has been re-assmed by paul misiunas. Below are a few quotes from his posts.
The boards usefulness has degenerated into a collection of links, and possibly the guestbook entries of people wishing to know more about the bridge.
I will waste no further time posting to the board, it apparently has reached a dead end.
ok.
bb continues to post success stories which is good.
Yes. I will hat him a bit more on the types and ensure he gets more to post, so he is not stuck with stale wins.
I will take on the witch of the west.
Fine with me. No one home far as I can tell. She cannot recognize anything at all.
She cannot be allowed to take over that territory with her insanity.
If Paul wants to give her free reign then I'll take her out and if necessary the www.fza.org site gets fully DA’d. Not with animosity but more like squishing a bug.
Pretty much.
The site www.fzint.org was set up last time Paul M. went crazy as a backup.
Very good. Well, now it will get some use. BB, Nav 10, can both promote to that url.
Mary can remove the links to fza.org from our fzaoint website.
We didn’t pursue it too heavily as things seemed to get better.
End of that ‘going on hoping’. Mike helped, but that has ended.
However we have the space and resources to put up a comparable site there.
Yep. And make it a live one too, not just a chat board for bank.
VAST is a 1.1 asshole from my obs. It seems to be a nest of vipers.
Hmm. Well, he sent me a very theta communication before, and I dont think he is on the bad guy list. I think his true intentions are to help. I saw the crptic comments, and would agree somewhat with the 1.1.
But, he does seem to have a lot of arc and agreement with the others. Sort of takes on the color of the association.
Regardless, we cannot let FZA just bite the dirt like that. So we simply shift power and attention to the FZINT board.
We have the entirety of the useful data that is on fza in the first place. Nothing to stop us from continuing on with never a missed stride..
In fact, it seems like a whole new fun game! We can use it to send new people to, broadly promote it to everyone, and that way the fzaoint board will be relieved of much of the chatter and good wishes and so forth , leaving the list more dedicated to getting clear and ot.
Its a bright new sunny day. So wonderful when one is out of doubt about something.
Tommy
—
Ralph Hilton
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#==================================================
Date: SatNov 3,20017:43 pm
Good Morning:
Another bright day in City of Angels. Rained a bit, and the smog is all gone. The FZA board is aligning nicely, it is sort of in valence, Mike Hunsaker is off the lines, and we are relieved of dev-t.
Ralph intends to put in place the fzaint website. This should be a very powerful theta move. FZA since its inception has been dissemiating all sorts of various “brands” of scientology, and it is no real surprise that it would collapse.
…
Date: SunNov 4,20018:28 pm
On Mon, 05 Nov 2001 03:27:00 +1000 you wrote:
Paul posted this yesterday. I don’t know if this means the board can no longer be READ by anyone not signing up, but it does seem to mean that all the messages on it at the present will be LOST when the change is made.
After posting something critical of Virginia and some of her statements I found that I was unable to access the fza.org site through my usual IP address.
If anyone has similar problems with being banned then I can give them access to other addresses. Their use does require moderate computer literacy.
Ralph Hilton http://www.fzint.org/rhilton Freezone International:
http://www.fzint.org C-Meter: http://www.inquisitive-instruments.co.uk/- - -
note: Ralph was never banned, but a few of his operatives were.
In the process Mike and I exchange a few emails as he makes his move:
05 Nov 2001 (b)
On Mon, 5 Nov 2001 14:12:06 -0700, you wrote:
Hi Paul,
I see you have taken over FZA. No problem. Just wondering why you did it the way you did. It would have been easier to info me and take over at BigBiz than to go to another server.
That’s just the way things worked out,
Take care.
Paul
I'll be out of town ’till Weds. or Thurs. will reply then.
Mike
The response to Mike follows after this post made by ‘take charge!’ Ralph Hilton:
From: Ralph Hilton <aon.912202928@aon.at> Newsgroups: alt.clearing.technology Subject: FZA Date: Tue, 06 Nov 2001 02:34:26 +0100
All members of FZAOINT have now been banned from use of the fza.org board.
“FZAOINT is hereby notified that they ARE NOT invited and will be removed as necessary. ” Paul Misiunas
Please remove all links to fza.org from your sites if you disagree with this form of censorship.
-FZA
Here is Mike’s response from the previous entry.
08 Nov 2001
To: misiunas@sacredcow.org
Subject: Re: FZA
From: “Mike Hunsaker” <mikegh@netutah.com>
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 21:29:58 -0700Hi Paul,
That sound more like a brush off than an answer.
Mike
Yeah, it is a brush off alright.
The next day on 09 Nov 2001 Mike creates his freezoneamerica.org domain:
09 Nov 2001
Domain Registration:
Registrant:
Hunsaker, Michael (FREEZONEAMERICA-DOM)
P.O. Box 1954
Cedar City, UT 84721-1954
USDomain Name: FREEZONEAMERICA.ORG
Administrative Contact: Hunsaker, Michael (NOKVGYVAQI) mike@freezoneamerica.org
Hunsaker,Michael
P.O. Box 1954
Cedar City, UT 84721-1954
US
435-591-1061 123 123 1234
Technical Contact:
Administration, Network (DL842) noc@WEBHOSTS.NET
Web Hosts Network
2464 El Camino Real, PMB 536
Santa Clara, CA 95051
408-241-4615 (FAX) 408-241-4615Record expires on 08-Nov-2003.
Record created on 09-Nov-2001.
Database last updated on 4-Feb-2003 08:59:31 EST.Domain servers in listed order:
NS3.BIGBIZ.COM209.133.75.11
NS.BIGBIZ.COM 216.218.198.2
NS.WEBHOSTS.NET 209.66.116.21
The Old WebMaster Speaks
Mike proceeds to tell the world his feelings about abruptly losing control of fza.org.
16 Nov 2001
Mike Hunsaker: The Old WebMaster Speaks
Dated: 16 Nov 200107 Oct 2002 : Update
**‘FreeZone America’ should not be confused with the original Free Zone America (FZA.ORG) web site. More information below.**Mike Hunsaker, after being discharged as webmaster of FZA.ORG for falling under the influence of outside forces (Tommy Thompson’s Free Zone Advanced Organization International), created the freezoneamerica.org web site. Showing his displeasure at being found out that he was neglecting his webmaster duties, accepted free auditing from Tommy Thompson for displaying Tommy’s organizational material an for accepting a ‘Dissemination Secreatary’ position with Tommy’s organization, Mike decided to name his ‘new’ web site “FreeZone America”. Not only did he use the exact same name as the one from FZA.ORG, he also placed on his web site unauthorized material from FZA.ORG.
Mike’s ‘FreeZone America’ web site now promotes Tommy Thompson’s ‘Free Zone Advanced Organization International’ as well as another of Tommy’s organizations ‘ICAUSE’. If you are looking for an unbiased approach to the ‘FreeZone’ you won’t find it at freezoneamerica.org, but you will find a lot of content, form and design stolen from FZA.ORG.
Here is Mike’s public statement defining his intention regarding the creation of freezoneamerica, and of the response of Paul Misiunas:
30 Dec 2002 16:38 : Update
This document is provided for historical purposes only. With the materials of FZA.ORG now being freely available to all, Mike’s unauthorized use of them is superfluous.
Neglecting FZA
The Old Webmaster [Mike Hunsaker] SpeaksTo: fzaoint@yahoogroups.com, Paul Misiunas <misiunas@sacredcow.org>
Subject: FreeZone America
From: “Mike Hunsaker” <mikegh@netutah.com>
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 22:06:55 -0700Hi all,
First off let me apologize for any upset that has been caused by the closing and reopening of FZA. Don’t blame it on others, it was my fault — through neglect. I let a few other things become dominate in my life and put no attention on the site.
That said, let me air my upset with the cycle, and how it occurred in my universe. (Ain’t itsa a wonderful thing?) I had not been paying attention to the forum area, was not aware of the meltdown with V and M. Tommy e-mailed me about what was going on. I checked it out, albiet belatedly. When I looked into it FZA was gone, so was any e-mail I received at mike@fza.org. Also a mailing list that was ran though that site. Naive guy (read as idiot) that I am I thought it was because of my server here in Utah. I had lost all comm to and from fza before because of my server, and I thought that that was what had happened. Few days later I find that FZA is back on another server. Okay, I say to myself, Paul has taken the website over again, as he was wont to do in the past. His right, he owns the domain fza.org.
But…what he did I consider a suppressive act. Yes, I know some of us hate that phrase, so let me restate it for the gentler of heart. What he did I consider a Bad Thing. Why, some of you may ask, after all he stopped all the nattering and bitching and false report on FZA. He also stopped all creative conversation (my opinion). He also stopped all comm I received from the fza site. He stopped comm others received via the site through mailing lists.
Paul yanked the site off of the server and put it on another one because he did not have the passwords to change anything. Obiously he wanted to change things. He could of just written to me if this was his wish and I would have given him what he needed to change what he wanted on the site. After all I was just a custodian. But he did not write or tell me what he was doing. He just cut my comm lines and others. I wrote him and asked him why he did it this way and his reply was, “That’s just the way things worked out”.
So it is Paul web site and he can do with it as he will. I look at it and see very little reference to the fzao. My opinion here again, but I don’t think he likes it very much. That is his loss. The Pilot material is still there but not very prominate, after all he did for the FZ, and his writings were what Paul said inspired him to create FZA.
I want the fzao materials to be available there, I want the Pilot’s materials there to inspire those who are currently leaving the church. I want the mailing list there to come back from the cut comm. Hell, I want my e-mail address back :-)
So as soon as the server can get their admin and programming together fza.org will be back as it was. Only it will be found at FreeZoneAmerica.org
I don’t wish to compete with you Paul, I just want to do what is right.
Mike
My Response
Wonderful reflection of your thoughts, Mike. It was also a wonderful reflection of your involvement with FZAOINT and of how you turned fza.org into a dissemination tool for that organization. As FZAOINT DISSEM SEC, you know what I mean.
Duplication of motion.
I think that pretty well summarizes the mind set that you people are engaging in.
I wonder, why would FZAOINT need a site such as fza.org when Tommy already has a site for his organization. I wonder why you, Mike, felt such a strong need to give FZAOINT bulletins and policies, prominent web space on fza.org. Isn’t it interesting that through your neglect of fza.org, you were awarded 25 hours of free auditing by Tommy for doing such a great job with the site. I wonder what would motivate Tommy to do that? Maybe it was because you were referring people to his organization? Perhaps it was because you webbed his organizational papers. Maybe it was because he was glad that his Dissem Sec controlled an avenue of potential pcs. Questions, questions.
Duplicating fza.org makes good sense if you want to encourage people to read the different views of various authors in regard to clearing. So much for your FZAOINT’s ‘standard tech’, unless you people want to use this material as bait to get people directed into the FZAOINT organization.
Duplicating the content of fza.org, as you well know, has absolutely nothing to do with me. You must, of course, gather the appropriate consent from the various authors of those materials.
As to the graphics and layout design of fza.org, you are not given permission to replicate, in any way, those aspects of the site. These are my works and not yours or FZAOINT’s or anyone else’s for that matter. The same applies to all of my own authored material of fza.org. This applies to the new format as well as to all older versions of the site. Tommy has already shown a total disregard in respecting the rights of my authored material, perhaps you will take a different view.
You described yourself as a custodian of fza.org. Whether fulfilling those duties or not, this does not make you the owner of the graphics and/or site layout and design of fza.org. There is a distinction.
Now on to your note.To: fzaoint@yahoogroups.com, Paul Misiunas <misiunas@sacredcow.org>
Subject: FreeZone America
From: “Mike Hunsaker” <mikegh@netutah.com>
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 22:06:55 -0700Hi all,
Ok, this is obviously a public statement, so I'll keep it that way.
First off let me apologize for any upset that has been caused by the closing and reopening of FZA. Don’t blame it on others, it was my fault — through neglect. I let a few other things become dominate in my life and put no attention on the site.
Under ‘Current Events’ on the main page, there were items that I placed there over two years ago. They were still there! Definitely neglect.
Ok, you are accepting responsibility for your neglect, let’s see if you really mean it.
That said, let me air my upset with the cycle, and how it occurred in my universe. (Ain’t itsa a wonderful thing?)
If you really are accepting responsibility for neglecting the site, then I would imagine that the actions taken to correct that neglect would be acceptable, but I see that you feel differently.
I had not been paying attention to the forum area, was not aware of the meltdown with V and M.
Yes, you were neglecting the site, we know that.
Let’s see, ‘V’ is Virginia, but who is ‘M’? I also don’t follow your idea of ‘meltdown’.
Tommy e-mailed me about what was going on.
Yes, he did say that he had authority over the site.
I checked it out, albiet belatedly.
Yes, I got that. It’s called neglect.
When I looked into it FZA was gone, so was any e-mail I received at mike@fza.org.
Now that’s a very curious statement as FZA was NEVER gone. I don’t know what you were doing, or how you were doing it, but you obviously weren’t accessing fza.org. As to the mail situation: During your ‘neglect’, I kept an eye on the mail right up until the time that I changed servers. Do you know what I noticed?
Before I tell you, and Tommy, the answer, I have to mention something else first. Tommy accused me of intercepting fza mail. He was quite upset about it. I told him he was wrong. He is wrong and so are you, Mike. Using my password, I ftp’ed into fza.org and checked the ‘mail’ subdirectory. You know, the one under ‘/home/web01c/fza/mail/’, something like that. I'd check the size of the file called ‘fza.pop’ every so often. You know, that’s the file that stores fza’s mail. The files size goes up as mail comes in and it goes down as the mail is checked out. Did you know what I noticed? The file size went up AND down. You people were receiving mail, getting mail and in all probability, sending it out as well.
If you have mail missing, Mike, then check with Tommy, as he seems to know all about this aspect of your situation.
I wonder what the real problem is in regard to this email button you guys seem to have.
Also a mailing list that was ran though that site.
Actually there are two. FZA-L and the one you set up called otco-l or something like that.
Naive guy (read as idiot) that I am I thought it was because of my server here in Utah. I had lost all comm to and from fza before because of my server, and I thought that that was what had happened.
I already explained the email situation. Going further, when the server was changed, of course you would stop receiving fza.org email. You were already getting the mail from the old server and chose not to change your email address. That is your problem, not mine.
Few days later I find that FZA is back on another server. Okay, I say to myself, Paul has taken the website over again, as he was wont to do in the past. His right, he owns the domain fza.org.
I'll tell you this again: Now that’s a very curious statement as FZA was NEVER gone.
Oh yes, I remember the last time I assumed control of fza.org. Through your neglect, you had let the domain name expire. That was when you stopped being a custodian too. When you got a second chance you not only continued to neglect the site but became affiliated with FZAOINT and allowed the site’s infiltration.
But…what he did I consider a suppressive act.
Interesting choice of words. Terminating your neglect and disinterest in the site and ending the FZA’s association, through you, to FZAOINT would be considered a suppressive act. Cutting FZAOINT’s lines of communication to their public, via FZA, is considered a suppressive act. Not seeking your permission to revive FZA is considered a suppressive act. Removing FZAOINT’s self serving policies and bulletins from FZA is considered a suppressive act. Yes, these could be considered suppressive acts by some.
Let’s face it, you are expressing your displeasure because your neglect and disinterest in FZA has been pointed out and FZAOINT’s lines of control to FZA have been pointed out. In the face of those outpoints, the finger can be pointed elsewhere as a misdirector, but that is not working at this end.
Yes, I know some of us hate that phrase, so let me restate it for the gentler of heart.
You must be preaching to the choir.
What he did I consider a Bad Thing. Why, some of you may ask, after all he stopped all the nattering and bitching and false report on FZA. He also stopped all creative conversation (my opinion).
You mean to say that Tommy’s and Ralph’s postings were ‘creative’? I find that hard to believe. You must have been making up for your neglect by taking the time to study the old forum to come up with a determination of what was ‘creative’ and what was not. Creative people create. Creative people find creative ways to create. And then there are those that do much of the “nattering and bitching and false report”.
He also stopped all comm I received from the fza site. He stopped comm others received via the site through mailing lists.
Yes, you got it right this time, mailing list(s). otco-l looked mighty dead. fza-l looked like it had some activity. How come you didn’t do anything about that?
I already explained your inaccurate email assumption. Neglect means that you are out of touch with disinterest. Now you are showing a strong interest in a perception of cut comm. Very weird.
Since you say that you are not getting any mail from your mike@fza.org address, I'll remove the ‘mikegh@netutah.com’ forwarding address that I placed on that account and kill anything that happens to come in.
Paul yanked the site off of the server and put it on another one because he did not have the passwords to change anything.
Perhaps you didn’t notice the new section that was added to the forum at the time? Perhaps you didn’t notice that once I changed servers, I removed everything but your fzaoint and related stuff from the old server. I wouldn’t have called it ‘yanking’, but something more along the lines of ‘removing’.
Obiously he wanted to change things.
What gave you the clue? My message of intent that I posted to the forum or Tommy’s email to you?
He could of just written to me if this was his wish and I would have given him what he needed to change what he wanted on the site.
You neglected the site. If you were paying attention you would have seen my message to the forum. Did you need to be woken up first by getting an email about the site that you have no interest in, or is it that you wanted me to get your permission? I didn’t give you permission to neglect the site, why would I give you permission to allow me to change servers?
Your assumption that I needed something from you is incorrect.
After all I was just a custodian.
Actually, since you allowed the infiltration of fza.org by FZAOINT to occur that makes you something else entirely.
But he did not write or tell me what he was doing. He just cut my comm lines and others. I wrote him and asked him why he did it this way and his reply was, “That’s just the way things worked out”.
Let’s put it into perspective, shall we.
On Mon, 5 Nov 2001 14:12:06 -0700, you wrote:
Hi Paul,
I see you have taken over FZA. No problem. Just wondering why you did it the way you did. It would have been easier to info me and take over at BigBiz than to go to another server.
That’s just the way things worked out,
Take care.
Paul
I'll be out of town ’till Weds. or Thurs. will reply then.
Mike
The response:
To: misiunas@sacredcow.org
Subject: Re: FZA
From: “Mike Hunsaker” <mikegh@netutah.com>
Date: Thu, 8 Nov 2001 21:29:58 -0700Hi Paul,
That sound more like a brush off than an answer.
Mike
Even though you said that it was “no problem”, it obviously is.
I am not going to handle your upset that you created by neglecting fza.org and allowing Tommy to have a say in the affairs of fza.org. It would have been much easier for all concerned if you had displayed an active interest in FZA. It would have been much easier for all concerned if you had not allowed an outside ‘authority’ to enter into the site. To turn around and demand justification for my actions is just plain silly.
So it is Paul web site and he can do with it as he will.
You just said that you had a problem with that. Either you have a problem about it (of which this message is addressing) or you don’t. Make up your mind.
I look at it and see very little reference to the fzao.
Exactly, and now you know why. You are tied to that organization and tried to tie FZA to it as well. No dice. You see, I can’t be bought with 25 hours of free auditing, and FZA never has successfully been in the past either. Your concern for the FZAOINT organization may best be expressed through THEIR OWN website, not the Free Zone web site called FZA. Perhaps you missed the part where I personally told you, over the phone, that Free Zone America derived it’s name from freezone.org, which of course VALIDATES and RECOGNIZES CBR’s F-R-E-E Z-O-N-E. Get it?
Just because I put other material on my site does not take away from the fact that fza.org owes it’s name to freezone.org. It’s true, reading the Pilot’s material helped to spur the site’s creation, but don’t kid yourself. CBR is THE BASIS that the site rests upon. THAT is why it is called a FREE ZONE site. Your undue concern about your FZAO not getting enough air time is self serving and inappropriate - ESPECIALLY in light of Tommy’s denial of CBR’s free zone definition and applicability.
You have stated that your purpose lines run with FZAOINT. I gave you the boot. Now you’re pissed and plan on stealing FZA’s content and design for your own purposes. GOOD LUCK! You people preach ‘standard technology’, call yourselves ‘Free Zone’, and turn around and denigrate Captain Bill Robertson - who made the Free Zone possible.
That is not spiritual freedom. That’s a bunch of implanters running around trying to control things. You guys can duplicate, but you can’t create, hence your actions that have been and will be demonstrated. DUPLICATION and CONTROL. Classic indicators.
My opinion here again, but I don’t think he likes it very much. That is his loss.
That is a loss that you wish I had. Reality is much different than the thoughts you have about it.
The Pilot material is still there but not very prominate, after all he did for the FZ, and his writings were what Paul said inspired him to create FZA.
I thought that you were just the custodian. Building justifications?
I want the fzao materials to be available there,
You want.
I want the Pilot’s materials there to inspire those who are currently leaving the church.
You want.
I want the mailing list there to come back from the cut comm.
You want.
Hell, I want my e-mail address back :-)
You want.
This is obviously all building up to your announcement:
So as soon as the server can get their admin and programming together fza.org will be back as it was. Only it will be found at FreeZoneAmerica.org
Yes, duplication of motion, but there is only one fza.org.
Another way of saying this is: “The church is back and can be found at FZAOINT.”I don’t wish to compete with you Paul, I just want to do what is right.
No one is stopping you from doing what is right, but your wish of competition won’t find a home with me.
You FZAOINT people keep harping about how fza.org will be returning to what it was. Under Mike’s control, it became a site of neglect, where the forum was used to natter, bicker and provide false report. THIS is what is being returned to? THIS is what the name duplication, the site duplication, the forum duplication, is all about?I wonder why you all think that my site is so important that it must be ‘protected’ at all costs. Why is it that FZAOINT must gain control of an actual Free Zone site when they have their own site, pushing their own agenda. Mike certainly isn’t doing this because he couldn’t even take care of fza.org on his own. Obviously, his connection to FZAOINT is demanding something more be done. And so we see it’s demonstration.
===============================================
“The free zone is not what cbr said it was.” - Tommy Thompson
What a revealing statement.
(For the full context, see f01659)
-Mike Hunsaker: The Old WebMaster Speaks
25 Nov 2001
There seems to be a bit of confusion about who really owns the Free Zone America web site. I am going to provide some data that will resolve this confusion quite easily and directly. -The ‘Force’ Behind Free Zone America
Continuing the destruction:
22 Dec 2001
From: Ralph Hilton <aon.912202928@aon.at> Newsgroups: alt.religion.scientology Subject: Freezone links Date: Sat, 22 Dec 2001 05:34:25 +0100
…
At the moment there are a lot of links to www.fza.org which I would prefer get removed as that site no longer reflects the general position of the Freezone…
-Freezone links
Now Mike tries to position himself as being in complete control of fza.org:
2002
25 Mar 2002
From: Michael Hunsaker <mike@freezoneamerica.org>
Newsgroups: alt.clearing.technology
Subject: FreeZone America
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2002 23:04:27 -0700
Organization: FreeZone America
Hi all,FZA is back. You can find it at http://freezoneamerica.org
There are a lot of corrections that need to be done, but I thought it was important to get the site up.
Any problems let me know. Any screwed up links or formatting, give me a week and then start ranting at me.
Here is a relevant article I wrote:
22 Sep 2002
The phrase “Free Zone” was first used as exactly that. It had a space between the two words. When I created the fza.org site in 1997, I removed the space between the words for both style and effect. ‘Free Zone’ became ‘FreeZone’, and I used that type of spelling in numerous ways to announce both the site and the stylized spelling.
Today, it has become an accepted way of using the phrase. That’s too bad because what has been lost sight of is the true purpose of the Free Zone. Instead of it’s original purpose, we have stylized and effect producing things such as freezoneamerica.org, fzusa.com, fzaoint.org, fzint.org, etc, etc. The list goes on and on.
To reclaim it’s original purpose, I'll not be using the concatenated version in the future as my attention is no longer on stylization or flowery effects. I'll leave that up to those who wish to take advantage of the mesmerizing effects produced.
Simply stated, the Free Zone is an area free of control where spiritual progression can be made unencumbered by evil intentions.
All of the sites that are associated with the ‘Free Zone’ are income producing, no matter what they call themselves. They are designed to generate traffic and create revenue.
FZA.ORG remains unbiased and free of the greed that clouds minds and dampens the spirit. If you want to ‘feel good’, then you probably would enjoy those web sites that I mentioned. But if you are looking for Freedom, then let the being free.
-Stylizing The Free Zone
23 Sep 2002
It’s true, Mike Hunsaker is the one who was responsible for maintaining the fza.org web site for a time. When that time was over, he created the sibling site, freezoneamerica.org. Fza.org spawned freezoneamerica.org.
But there is more to the story.
Instead of creating his new web site from scratch, he took almost all of the pages and files of fza.org and placed them on his site, calling them his own. That sometimes happens when the kids move out. They take their favorite objects. Mike didn’t ask for permission to take fza.org wholesale and claim it as his own on his new site. But kids, when they begin to grow up, can sometimes become unruly. That’s OK.
It’s no secret that Mike was told, when he announced his plans of moving out, that the form and layout of fza.org was not his to take. He took them anyway. The site which took years to build became looted overnight. Sometimes, unruly kids will take by force prized and coveted objects. But that’s OK.
On the bottom of the pages of fza.org there is a little tag that tells about the copyright of fza.org. In his bold attempt at claiming authorship, Mike removed these tags thereby staking claim to fza.org’s material.
It is no secret that much of the ‘FreeZone’ material on fza.org is from various authors and sources. These are NOT the works of fza.org. BUT the form and layout, along with the graphics involved, ARE the works of fza.org. Not Mike Hunsaker, but fza.org’s creator Paul Misiunas.
Now you may ask what occurred that started all this trouble? What happened to push Mike into taking the sort of actions that he has?
The answer is simple.
Fza.org has always remained unbiased towards the various Scientology and ‘FreeZone’ clearing material that it placed on it’s site. In order to keep in check the various income-producing individuals and their created organizations, the site remained completely neutral to those particulars. It had to in order to truthfully state that spiritual growth is of importance. NOT some particular person’s idea of that concept. Spiritual growth is the prime concern.
When Mike accepted the job of maintaining fza.org, he was fully aware of the above.
As time went on, Mike become less and less interested in maintaining fza.org. The main page of the site looked almost exactly as I had left it and the only major new material was from Tommy Thompson’s organization.
Wait a minute.
Why would Mike allow Tommy’s organizational bulletins and policies to be placed on fza.org? Why would Mike break the neutrality of fza.org and side with Tommy’s FZAOLA organization? Why did that organization become of greater importance than any of the other organizations that were out in the ‘Free Zone’?
The answer is that Mike had become “Dissem Sec” for Tommy. That means that he became the marketing arm for Tommy’s organization. And to reward Mike for hosting FZAOLA’s material, Tommy audited Mike for free. Services were exchanged.
Fza.org had been bought and Mike became a biased representative.
What he should have done is to relinquish his position with fza.org, but he did not. And so I resumed control of the site not wanting fza.org to degenerate into a self serving web site.
This is the reason that Mike became upset and took the entire fza.org site, the name ‘FreeZone America’ and setup up his own shop.
But don’t let the appearance of my pages on his freezoneamerica.org site fool you. Mike remains biased and in the employ of Tommy Thompson’s FZAOLA. His neutrality and integrity are no longer questionable. His actions have revealed his intent.
Fza.org has returned to once again becoming unbiased. There may be material on the site that you find disagreeable and there may be material on the site that you find agreeable. Either way, the site remains unbiased and free of hidden intentions. You get what you see. You will not get hidden agendas, people in the shadows or self-serving intent. You will get the open and honest truth. And from there, anything is possible.
freezoneamerica.org is Mike Hunsaker’s site, representing Tommy Thompson’s FZAOLA, ICAUSE and who knows how many other store fronts. They are all connected and intertwined, each reflecting some aspect of it’s leader and each building upon the other.
Fza.org is Paul Misiunas' site representing the idea of the Free Zone as originally intended by Captain Bill Robertson and set forth in the “Free Zone Decree”. There is absolutely no monetary gains involved whatsoever. That’s the nice thing about spiritual growth - it’s an innate right that is not for purchase or sale.
When some people redefine the term ‘Free Zone’ as being something other than that which was originally intended, another term comes to mind. Squirrel.
A squirrel alters intents to suit it’s own needs. It happened in the Church. It has already happened in the ‘FreeZone’.
Whatever you do, don’t alter your own intent of spiritual growth. Being ever vigilant is coming to know the truth when you see it. Not someone else’s IDEA of truth, but THE truth.
Being biased in the understanding of that truth is what makes the kids leave the house with their most coveted objects.
-The Truth About Freezoneamerica.org
And more:
09 Oct 2002
(As noted earlier, this is part of the ‘outstanding issues’ which I promised to address)
As most ‘FreeZoners’ know, there has been a bit of an upset having to do with myself and the mistaken impression that the ‘FreeZone’ has authority over FZA.ORG. Of course this ‘upset’ can be narrowed down to two specific individuals. Ralph Hilton and Tommy Thompson.
Perhaps you have heard of their displeasure with my actions and of how they used the discussion forums here on FZA.ORG as tools for their revenge.
…
The news that the ‘FreeZone’ had absolutely no use for FZA.ORG other than as a marketing tool for individual aggrandizement became obvious. In protest to that undesired condition, I removed FZA.ORG from the Internet for six months, from friend and foe alike.
Upon the return of FZA.ORG, I once again discovered exactly who my friends are and it wasn’t the ‘FreeZone’.
The ‘FreeZone’ had their say as they carried out the destruction of FZA.ORG. As the spoils of that ‘war’, Mike Hunsaker took all the material it took me years to gather and present on the Internet, along with the ‘FreeZone America’ name and setup up his own marketing shop for his boss, Tommy Thompson along with Ralph Hilton. Don’t forget, Mike is the Dissemination Secretary for one of the many front organizations of Tommy Thompson. As webmaster of FZA.ORG for a time, Mike set up the destruction of FZA.ORG by accepting a bribe and position within an organizational arm of Tommy Thompson, thereby destroying the unbiasedness of FZA.ORG. FZA.ORG was planned for destruction for some time even before I brought the obvious battle that was occurring out in the open.
And a bit of explaining:
2003
04 Feb 2003
Author: misiunas
Posted: Tue 04 Feb 2003 12:21 pm
Subject: Altered Reality and Rewritting History‘Altered reality’, rewriting history, deception and just plain old LIES run rampant in the ‘freezone’. Quite a bit of time could be spent in sorting it all out, but that’s the point. The more attention that is flowed to a ridge, the more fixated one becomes - until TRUTH is brought to bear in either a narrow or WIDE field of vision.
I am going to narrowly address two small little blips on the ‘fz’ ridge screen.
1) Mike Hunsaker’s comment about why he created freezoneamerica.org.
2) Alan Walter’s 1998 post to alt.clearing.technology addressing his ‘spiritual teammates’.=================================================
1) Mike Hunsaker’s comments about why he created freezoneamerica.org.
URL Ref: http://www.freezoneamerica.org/discus/messages/3/12.html
Mike Hunsaker wrote:
Posted on Thursday, March 28, 2002 - 05:35 pm:
Hi all,
It has come to my attention that some folks don’t know that I am me. :-)
Well, at least one other person. This person seemed to think that I am Mike McClaughry. This is my fault as I have only been signing my posts as ‘Mike’.
I apologize for any confusion this may have caused. I am Mike Hunsaker, pleased to meet you. I am webmaster of the site FreeZone America which hosts this board. FZA (Free Zone America) was originally started by Paul Misiunas. He handed it off to me at one point and it bounced between us for awhile. Paul took it back over in Nov. of last year after what he saw as neglect on my part. Recently FZA disappeared. I thought the site should still exist so I brought it back.
I'll be signing my posts different so this mix-up doesn’t happen again. I have no affiliation with Mike McClaughry, nor his wife Virginia. I am the sole person responsible for this site.
What can I do for you?
Mike
STATEMENT:
“Recently FZA disappeared. I thought the site should still exist so I brought it back.”
FACTS:
1) FZA.ORG temporarily went ‘off the air’ in early March, 2002 (est).
2) Mike created freezoneamerica.org several months PRIOR: (Be sure to note the dating)URL Ref: http://fza.org/more/fzaoint1.php
Mike Hunsaker wrote:
To: fzaoint@yahoogroups.com, Paul Misiunas <misiunas@sacredcow.org>
Subject: FreeZone America
From: “Mike Hunsaker” <mikegh@netutah.com>
Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2001 22:06:55 -0700…
So as soon as the server can get their admin and programming together fza.org will be back as it was. Only it will be found at FreeZoneAmerica.org
…
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FZA.ORG disappeared and Mike Hunsaker “…brought it back.” at his new site.* The disappearance of FZA.ORG had NOTHING to do with the creation of freezoneamerica.org.
Let’s keep this in perspective. Back on 03 Nov 2001 Tommy Thompson had this to say:
We have the entirety of the useful data that is on fza in the first place. Nothing to stop us from continuing on with never a missed stride..
In fact, it seems like a whole new fun game! We can use it to send new people to…
-I Respect Your Desire for Peace However…
It was sometime around this time period that I noticed on Yahoo that ‘FreeZone America’ received a top score in their listings. Not the fza.org domain but Mike’s domain. I found this to be quite interesting as fza.org was listed on Yahoo for years slowly building up traffic but when Mike does his copy-cat(4)> routine his site suddenly takes the prize. In addition to that his budding group starts up a list on Yahoo called… you guessed it ‘FreeZone America’. It was really amazing to see the movement that was occurring, the magic show performance of pulling the rabbit out of the hat and saying… “Keep your eyes on the rabbit…”.
It was also interesting to note the lines of control that became apparent, from yahoo listings and reviews to those who took up the banner of duplicating the lie of freezoneamerica.org.
I was glad to have a front row seat. More on this later…
Going Bananas
Here comes the explosion from Mike. All that pent up emotion is obviously coming to the fore. Now for a target. Mike’s alliance with Ralph and Tommy really come through here as he parrots the party line.
03 May 2003
Newsgroups: alt.clearing.technology
Subject: For Paul Misiunas
From: Mike Hunsaker <mike@freezoneamerica.org>
Date: Sat, 03 May 2003 20:46:07 -0600Hi Paul,
I was going to e-mail you privately, but realized that this did not need to be a private conversation and that those who read and lurk on act might be interested.
The short version is: WTF, Paul?
The long version:
The Pilot posted his initial material. You are revitilized. You put up FZA. The combination of the two breathes new life into the FZ. (Let’s not quibble about definitions, WBR started the FZ. The FreeZone is a different thing, but closely related to what he started. The way I initially took the word was to mean FREE from the church. The term freezone can mean different, but related things. Like “tree”.)
We met online. When you decided to drop FZA you turned it over to me. At times you would run it, at others me. I screwed up and you took over FZA. Somewhere around this time you sent me all of your Scientology material and said you didn’t need it any more. You took Virginia under your wing and lost the original FZA due to her machinations. As you know I started freezoneamerica.org to ensure that the spirit of the old FZA continue and others could get the help I got from the original site.
You are still running FZA.ORG, but from looking at your discussion board it seems to be only a circle jerk.
I think you know the value of LRH tech. The church is not delivering that value. Others are. You and your friends are attacking some of them. Hell, your folks have attacked me. I do not trust those folks. I have in the past trusted you. Today, I don’t. I haven’t seen any evidence that you and your group are doing any auditing. Have you progressed since your auditing from Filbert? Has anyone in your cluster moved up the bridge? The cluster being Virg, Jontu and Mike. Virg seems to be the spokesperson for your group. Jontu will post. But it all seems to be quotes and bait and badger. Mike doesn’t post. Maybe Virginia ate him. :-) (3)Your actions don’t seem to be helping anyone, as you once did. The wins in our FreeZone outnumber those in the church. You seem to support those who are trying to bring down those who are winning.
So I ask, your website and your buddies seem to be intent on bringing down the FZ, you don’t seem to like anyone. But what are you going to replace it with? Or are you only intent on eradicating it? If we are gone can you get a pc up to OT 8? Hell, can you help the average man on the street with a Life Repair?
Your and others actions only seem to be to destroy. What are you creating to replace that?
As I started, so I will end —
WTF, Paul?
Best,
Mike
-ACT: For Paul Misiunas
Here is the reply I posted in return:
04 May 2003 (a)
Newsgroups: alt.clearing.technology
Subject: Re: For Paul Misiunas
From: Paul Misiunas <nospam@fza.org>
Date: Sun, 04 May 2003 14:18:36 -0400On Sat, 03 May 2003 20:46:07 -0600, Mike Hunsaker <mike@freezoneamerica.org> wrote:
Hi Paul,
Hi Mike, how are you? It’s nice to be greeted with a friendly “hello”.
I was going to e-mail you privately, but realized that this did not need to be a private conversation and that those who read and lurk on act might be interested.
Ok, thanks for telling me about it.
| The short version is: WTF, Paul? I like directness. No, not in the usual kind of ‘freezone’ salute(7), but being to being. Do you know what I mean?Sometimes, people have a hard time expressing themselves other than through emotional content. It’s too bad, really, that people get so easily caught up in it and have a hard time coming to a rational comm line.
Take, for instance, your “WTF”. It wouldn’t be very funny in an auditing session, though, would it? Just imagine being a preclear, in front of an auditor, and that auditor saying to you, “WTF is your problem, just run what I tell you to run .”
It would be disastrous, wouldn’t you agree?
Usually, with an example like that, people in your ‘freezone’ relish the opportunity to make a come-back such as “Well, STUPID, We’re not IN an auditing session.”
I beg to differ.
Life has this amazing ability to provide a vehicle for a being’s expression. When an individual’s experience starts to go ‘bad’, well then, all these memories get stored up so as to be dealt with ‘later’.
It WOULD be stupid for an individual who is in command of themselves, to ‘bar talk’ with others, being belligerent, aggressive and obscene. Why would that be necessary, do you think?
A theta being moves along theta lines.
A “WTF” being moves along “WTF” lines. I CAN talk as a biker dude, drinking up a storm in some topless biker bar. It’s just not quite my style. And if I'm not in the mood to listen to others ask me questions from a “WTF” viewpoint, that’s the way it is.
I AM glad that you are at least willing to communicate, so thanks for that. As to it’s realness, that remains to be seen.
The long version:
Oh, no! :-)
The Pilot posted his initial material. You are revitilized. You put up FZA. The combination of the two breathes new life into the FZ. (Let’s not quibble about definitions, WBR started the FZ. The FreeZone is a different thing, but closely related to what he started. The way I initially took the word was to mean FREE from the church. The term freezone can mean different, but related things. Like “tree”.)
Ok, here you are expressing your viewpoint and don’t want to be ‘quibbled’ with, so I'll just leave it alone.
We met online. When you decided to drop FZA you turned it over to me. At times you would run it, at others me. I screwed up and you took over FZA. Somewhere around this time you sent me all of your Scientology material and said you didn’t need it any more. You took Virginia under your wing and lost the original FZA due to her machinations. As you know I started freezoneamerica.org to ensure that the spirit of the old FZA continue and others could get the help I got from the original site. You are still running FZA.ORG, but from looking at your discussion board it seems to be only a circle jerk.
Well, your ‘realness’ wore off real fast. But as I said, if you need emotional content in other to ‘make’ your point, I won’t interfere.
I think you know the value of LRH tech. The church is not delivering that value. Others are. You and your friends are attacking some of them. Hell, your folks have attacked me. I do not trust those folks. I have in the past trusted you. Today, I don’t. I haven’t seen any evidence that you and your group are doing any auditing. Have you progressed since your auditing from Filbert? Has anyone in your cluster moved up the bridge? The cluster being Virg, Jontu and Mike. Virg seems to be the spokesperson for your group. Jontu will post. But it all seems to be quotes and bait and badger. Mike doesn’t post. Maybe Virginia ate him. :-)
Yada, yada, ya. Yes, the ‘freezone’ salute. I am quite familiar with it, thank you.
Your actions don’t seem to be helping anyone, as you once did. The wins in our FreeZone outnumber those in the church. You seem to support those who are trying to bring down those who are winning.
Ok, so your ‘freezone’ is in competition with the church. I'm not in competition with anyone, so I can’t help you out there.
So I ask, your website and your buddies seem to be intent on bringing down the FZ, you don’t seem to like anyone. But what are you going to replace it with? Or are you only intent on eradicating it? If we are gone can you get a pc up to OT 8? Hell, can you help the average man on the street with a Life Repair?
A “WTF” seems appropriate here, but I see that it is coming, in just a bit…
Your and others actions only seem to be to destroy. What are you creating to replace that?
Well, I have to say this: You’re getting much better at handling comm, as in the typical ‘freezone’ manner. That could be quite good in a way, but coincidences are like that.
As I started, so I will end —
WTF, Paul?
Best,
Mike
I was hoping that we could have a real comm line here, but I see that it is not something you want to have at the moment. | Feel free to continue your thought process, with this, as you wish. Sometimes, I don’t mind responding with other people’s comm when they’re being antagonistic, as long as there is some of the being in it themselves.
Ralph helped me to define who my friends really were when he garnered ‘freezone’ support for his ‘kill FZA’ web site terrorism operation. Sure, YOU, and others, can justify his actions, but isn’t it a little silly to NOW ask me: “WTF”?
So Mike, what occurred that made you feel like writing to me?Paul
And here is Mike’s reply:
04 May 2003 (b)
Newsgroups: alt.clearing.technology
Subject: Re: For Paul Misiunas
From: Mike Hunsaker <mike@freezoneamerica.org>
Date: Sun, 04 May 2003 14:17:05 -0600Hi Paul,
Thanks for the reply. It wasn’t very informative, but it did give me an idea of where you are coming from. That was the main reason for my post.
Best,
Mike
-ACT: For Paul Misiunas
And the last communication to Mike:
04 May 2003 (c)
Newsgroups: alt.clearing.technology
Subject: Re: For Paul Misiunas
From: Paul Misiunas <nospam@fza.org>
Date: Sun, 04 May 2003 16:33:41 -0400On Sun, 04 May 2003 14:17:05 -0600, Mike Hunsaker <mike@freezoneamerica.org> wrote:
Hi Paul,
Thanks for the reply. It wasn’t very informative, but it did give me an idea of where you are coming from. That was the main reason for my post.
Best,
Mike
So what you are saying here, Mike, is that you do NOT wish for real communication.
You have the right to refuse undesired communication, but why seek it?
It’s too bad that you had to ‘hide’ your main reason for communicating to me among all the antagonism which you displayed in your message.
But that’s exactly the point, isn’t it?
May your Bridge to Total Freedom be all that you want it to be… and more.
Best wishes,
Paul
-ACT: For Paul Misiunas
As a demonstration of where Mike is at mentally at this point I'd like to include the following about what he has to say regarding a post made to his discussion board by Virginia.
05 May 2003
Extracts from the tape transcript, “Anatomy of the theta body”, by LRH, were posted to Mike Hunsaker’s discussion board, with no additional comments by the poster.
The post is completely removed from the discussion board by Mike H.
The reason, Mike H. writes, is: “I did not object to what was posted, only who posted it.”
-Doing What Is Right
Somewhere along the way I was searching for a post that I had made which led me to Mike’s site where I discovered that Mike had altered all of my email addresses on his entire site. He obviously was not going to allow anyone to communicate with me through his site even if it meant altering data - so he altered data. This is but another major out-point regarding Mike.
Here is the article I wrote about that:
2004
29 Mar 2004
Mike Hunsaker of ‘steal it and run’ fame is now willfully misleading the public about my contact information. In his haste to legitimatize his own branding, he has gone so far as to willfully LIE about my contact information. He now claims that I have an email address at his copy-cat site. THIS IS NOT TRUE and never has been.
My email address has always been right here at fza.org and NO WHERE ELSE. Any other email address is a FAKE. Mike’s altering of my e-mail address is typical of the behavior so prevalent in the ‘FreeZone’ and is indicative of the depths to which Mike Hunsaker has fallen while immersed in it.
Here are two references, pulled from Google:
Self Clearing Diary - Chapter 7 … diary:
Subject: GuestBook Entry
Date: Thu, 20 Aug 1998 08:58:52 -0700
From: Paul Misiunas <misiunas@freezoneamerica.org>.
Found this …
freezoneamerica.org/pilot/diary/diary7.html - 34k - Cached - Similar pagesand:
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From: pilot@hiddenplace.com …
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subj : Super Scio - To Paul On Lions TO PAUL ON LIONS On 13 Jul 98, misiunas@freezoneamerica.org
(Paul Misiunas) posted on subject "Are You Afraid of Lions …
freezoneamerica.org/pilot/posts/1998/post34.txt - 101k - Cached - Similar pages
[ More results from freezoneamerica.org ]^ You see, that’s NOT my email address and it certainly wasn’t the one that I used when I originally made those posts. Mike has ALTERED it for his own ends.
To me, it looks like when Hunsaker did his whole-sale copy of fza.org to place on his own site, he went quite overboard by mindlessly replacing each and every instance of “fza.org” with his own branding in complete disregard to validity. But this is nothing new coming from the same person who not only neglected fza.org while it was under his care, but also sought to destroy it’s independent status by aligning fza.org with the organizational structure of the person whose loyalty now has his favor, Tommy Thompson and his many fronts. Way to go Mikey! :-(
What else could be expected from the ‘FreeZone’ but alteration? I wonder WHAT ELSE Mike has altered in his haste of wanting to appear legitimate. From the looks of things, I'm quite happy to find my abode on the other side of the tracks. It is MUCH cleaner over here, that is for sure.
It must be difficult for Mike to go through life always playing second fiddle. But that is what happens when one goes off the well-worn path and follows others who SAY they know, but their actions OBVIOUSLY state otherwise.
Open your eyes Mike. Going up the Bridge doesn’t take LRH or YEARS of effort. All it takes is just YOU DOING IT. Leave the Bank and SEE. You won’t regret it.
I have to scratch my head at the stupidity of so many ‘FreeZoner’s’ who year after year, GET NO WHERE. And for some, even when they gleefully attach themselves to ANOTHER label, are STILL no different. In the ‘FreeZone’ there is no waking up, there is just one big, long SNOOZE. Happy sleeping!
But for God’s sake - PLEASE don’t cross the tracks into the better part of town. You just MAY find that Life actually GOES somewhere. Yes, it DOES go somewhere else other than one’s own dreams. When one is living in a run-down shanty, all that is left are dreams, but they are NOT the answer.
Wake up Mike. Perhaps your FIRST step in actually GOING up the Bridge will be correcting the deception that you are perpetuating on the public. Start small, like my email address for instance, and work your way UP. You can’t help but succeed.
-Misleading The Public
2005
This entry is referenced earlier on the chain.
13 May 2005
I found this quote on rense.com:
If we don’t believe in freedom of expression for people we despise, we don’t believe in it at all. - Noam Chomsky
Although the word ‘despise’ is a bit overboard the intent still comes across pretty well.
It’s like the freezone and it’s stumbling in the dark. I don’t have a problem with it at all as they are certainly entitled to do as they please.
On the other hand it’s quite funny to see the freezone go instantly insane when they find something which disagrees with them. Imagine my surprise when the ever-popular freezone tech king Hilton proclaimed that everyone should remove their links to fza.org or that even though fza.org is not under his control, it should be.
I'll not go into the historical background on those items but I still find them to be quite humorous.
freezone-related editors screwing up FZA’s search engine listing is another big laugh for me. Hunsaker’s theft of the entire site is another. The list just goes on and on with the freezone and it all means diddly squat to me.
There are those who find their way here despite all the freezone’s efforts to the contrary. There are serious beings out there and it is to these few brave souls that FZA is here at all. The rest of humanity is busy enough already with their narcissistic dream of dreams why become the whipping boy by telling them it just ain’t so. It’s far better to give one’s attention to those who are serious, not those who are playing at being serious, but those who are intently deep down consumed with being Free.
It’s not for everyone that is for sure.
Neither is FZA. So when hardened hearts proclaim law it means diddly squat here as anyone and everyone has the right to their own thoughts, ideas and concepts and to play it out anyway they so choose.
-Freedom Of Expression
2011
Currently Mike continues his reign at freezoneamerica.org doing what he does best. Not much has changed there in the years since his attempt to steal some thunder via copy-catting his way to fame and glory. I have no clue as to what he has been up to behind the public front nor do I care. I've said it before and I'll say it again, ‘creative people create’. As for the rest, the magician can’t help but to continue to create illusions in the hopes that no one will be the wiser - especially in the face of mounting evidence to the contrary. One can run from one’s self but there can be no hiding.
Lines of Control
As previously mentioned it was quite interesting for me to observe the lines of control surrounding Mike and his freezoneamerica.org show. Here I can state that the purpose of the Free Zone America website was to move out from the shadows those who refused to leave home. In exposing the shadows there is not a personal conviction or battle for right or wrong, for good and evil, there is none of that. In my understanding it was my purpose to expose that which has been exposed. So for that fza.org has served it’s purpose.
Since the completion of that time period fza.org has remained closed and offline but recently the domain has come up in purpose again so as to make available some of the data that was found there for historical reference. This is not particularly noteworthy as the deed is already done and well past it’s expiration. This data will be available most likely until the doors become permanently closed - and they certainly will at some point.
Fishing With Fza.org
It’s been interesting to watch the subtle and not so subtle forms employed by the lines of control mentioned. Sometimes when one goes fishing one encourages the natives to go for the hook by using tasty bait - bait that is simply irresistible. This is something that every fisherman knows. Time and patience with just the right amount of tasty treats seems to always work best. But there are also times when the hunter treads the game path, tracking the scent of prey. It just depends upon the goal and the environment.
As you may have guessed this article is not specifically about Mike Hunsaker which is being used as an entryway, but about that which provides greater interest. Of course that interest is there simply because of my placement of it. This is the reason why I chose to use the ideology of ‘free zone’ to do what I have done with fza.org. Although it was a small part of the whole it was used as one might call a ‘totem’. Not exactly but somewhat close in description and application.
Another goal of fishing is to overcome the pull of resistance. When one introduces foreign life into an area where nature provides no accommodation for it, it will either thrive or succumb. Shadow people tend to thrive in environments where nature has been superseded by Man and they tend to succumb in environments where Man is in balance with such. Here on this planet it doesn’t take a rocket scientist to figure out that the blue jewel is unbalanced and woefully torn asunder by Man in his good-seeking quest of domination and control. This is the pond of restorative life for those who live by the shadows. Parasites require the life-blood of the host in order to survive and with the drainage of this life energy the host begins to increasingly lose the means to overcome it’s condition. Eventually the host ceases to provide the needed nourishment and the parasite moves on.
Sometimes the parasite will come and go with little notice, slyly feeding but a small amount from any and all.
In either case the slow disintegration of species becomes evident. Looking for cause who sees the venomous vampire who lies still in the shadows of life and living waiting and watching for opportunity to knock? A busy mind is an active mind full of comings and goings lacking the ability to see beyond it’s own vanity. In this perpetual state of frenzy who has the time to look and to see?
Sometimes a moment of pause is required.
Distracting piranha heightens awareness. One gets to see both the danger and the safety.
In Passing
Now don’t get me wrong. I have no ill intention toward Mike - or anyone else for that matter. He may do whatever he wishes, I fully allow that right for each and every being. This doesn’t mean that I hold a being’s actions in high regard when it comes to self desire, a self determined desire to increase one’s own stature which always comes at the expense of another. The traits and characteristics of Man can lead one into the deep dark depths of a self-created hell where negative energy seeks to dominate and suppress the expression of the spiritual nature that we are.
I can say that through the trials and tribulations of fza.org the right people were placed in the right positions in order to achieve that which was achieved. For this there is no cure - thank goodness! Or one may thank evil. It really doesn’t matter when one leaves the duality of life and living behind.
Nothing to gain, nothing to lose. From that position one never becomes as a puppet dancing to the strings of the puppet master. The freedom from self-inflicted imprisonment, from the emotional bondage which one creates for one’s self and expresses as pain and suffering is something I wish for every being through all time and space as is or can be imaged.
In Summary
Let’s review:
- Mike puts on his ‘helpful’ disguise in order to lay the ground work for future ventures.
- On his way to fame and glory Mike saddles up with Master Tommy Thompson in the hopes of ‘clearing the planet’.
- In exchange for 25 hours of auditing Mike gives away the farm, and soul, to Tommy Thompson.
- Upon being exposed, Mike sets up a copy-cat version of fza.org so as to please Tommy.
- It all becomes the fault of someone else, namely me - Paul Misiunas.
- Mike continues his well-established habit of neglect and now, deceit with his own site. Safe and secure without a worry in the world of being nudged awake.
Business is business I suppose. Isn’t that right Tommy?
"There, there now… that’s a good doggie."
Pets make wonderful humans.
I suppose that last bit could be considered a bit unkind but please don’t take it that way. It’s more a tongue-in-cheek description of the relationship between wanna-be puppet masters and their pets. I'm not saying Mike is a pet but the relationship of willing attendant to ‘greater beings’ still applies. It’s really a farce of great magnitude when one being attaches itself in vampiric fashion to another in order to feed but it takes two to tango and there is nothing like a willing subject for the latest and craziest lab experiment.
The End Times
Finding one’s own way requires a steadfast and sure concentration of focus upon discovering that the being you are requires nothing of measure to quantify. What freedom there is without the leash of despair!
It’s not about leashing all the bad dogs on the block. It’s about finding one’s own way to the glory of what you really are. No one but you can do that for you. Go ahead and have at it. You have my complete support.
Additional Information
- Creepy Crawlers
- Free Zone Differentiation
- But It’s Just A *Little* Lie…
- A Layman’s Guide to the ‘FreeZone’
- Auditing In The ‘FreeZone’
- My Final Answer To The Question
- In His Own Words : Ralph Hilton
- Ralph Hilton..the Hypocrite
- Competition
- Penance in Purgatory
FootNotes
- The exact date is unknown but I do remember living in New York at the time and going down to the post office lugging two heavy boxes in the snow. Thank goodness for the book rate I received for the mailing. Also, these materials were sent to Mike with no exchange meaning that I was not asking for compensation. He wanted to pay for something so I told him that if he wanted to he could pay for the postage. I did not tell him the amount and he sent the $100 check based upon his reading of the postage labels, I suppose. The actual postage cost was somewhere around $92 to $98. ^
- The posts made to the FZA-L mailing list are not currently available in the FZA Archives and therefore not referenced but included. ^
- Notice the covert intention here. ^
- Virginia actually came up with the description ‘copy-cat’ in regard to Mike taking the fza.org web pages and placing them all on his site. I thought the term was quite appropriate and use it accordingly. Here is something that Mike did change and as you read this notice the implication. My version from fza.org: “Contrary to popular belief there IS life after Scientology, and that life starts with the FreeZone!” and Mike’s freezoneamerica.org version: “Contrary to popular belief there IS life after Scientology, and that life starts with the FreeZone!”. As I've said, creative people create and as for the rest, well there is always alteration of the duplication. ^
- Ralph is known as using a number of identities to post on the
Internet. It’s especially fun to watch when he makes posts that ‘talk’
among themselves.
“Another joke of the land is Ralph Hilton ‘being’ L. Ron Hubbard and coming out with the insanity of his ‘Revenius’ valence. Funny trick Ralphie!” -FZA Timeline
“As several suspected I created the LRH2 and Revenius identities.” -Revenius unveiled ^ - This is what got Ralph’s panties in a bind: FZA.ORG: The State of Case, a personal report. It also provided the motivation for him to set up his fzaoint business venture. I guess Ralph didn’t like what I said in that article. ^
- “Sick lunatic fucks.” -basicbasic aka Terril Park (another pet), “dick brained bozo” -Ralph Hilton aka LRH2, Revenius, etc., “WTF, Paul?” -Mike Hunsaker, “You and Virginia are both idiots.” and “If you think my conduct is appalling in the third person, then I am overjoyed beyond belief. Wait till you feel it in the first person.” -Tommy Thompson ^