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09 Mar 2009

2001 zenetae.com Interview

Zen: Alex, the first question our readers will have is, your reason for silence.

Alex: My reason for silence…

Zen: You haven’t been on the radio for a while, no latest updates on the web site recently, is there any particular reason?

Alex: There really isn’t much to say. You know, the truth is I really don’t know, I don’t have the feel or the value of the information and more—

Zen: Are people interpreting it wrong?

Alex: No, I just think that, I really think that people just don’t care. There’s always a handful, but I just don’t know if people really care.

Zen: The 10% threshold limit might be a little bit harder to achieve then what you might have thought it would have five years ago.

Alex: Yes. The time, the effort, the expense of just trying to keep everyone informed, the bottom line is that, I don’t see the world changing for the better. The Andromedan information really stresses self-responsibility and I see very very few people actually trying to achieve that. There is a difference between knowledge and wisdom. I don’t think a lot of people really really grasp that. There are plenty of people who are very intellectual but are complete buffoons and are fools.. They have no idea what they’re doing, how they’re going to get there, or why they’re even here. People that are wise, are people that understand their present condition and they’ve learnt to manage themselves. Quite frankly I don’t see enough people doing anything about it, I don’t see them practicing the information, using it, and I guess for me it comes to a point, you know, does it really have any value any more?.. Is it just something that just a handful of us really care about?

Zen: Could one of the reasons people may not be trying to change the world is because they are so pre-occupied with their own existence? mortgages, jobs, kids, family?

Alex: I think those are all real genuine factors but I think that people look at physical progress as evolution. In fact its not. The only real genuine evolution is in the mind. Here we have physically, materially progressed or evolved as people would say tremendously in the last one hundred years, but look at all the problems we have now. Okay, we have problems now that literally threaten our own existence and that’s because of physical progress. Now, if we were consciously evolving - what I mean is the way we think, the way we view the world, the way we view ourselves, it would be a very different world or environment.

We’d have free energy, we wouldn’t be stealing - using all the minerals in the earth to survive, we’d probably would have shaken off our monetary system, because basically all the world wealth is being held at the top and I think if we were evolving consciously we would have gotten rid of all of these things that didn’t serve us.

Zen: In your perspective how much of the regressive extra-terrestrial influence has affected humanities progress.

Alex: Do you mean consciousness?

Zen: Both consciousness and technologically. You mentioned in one of your lectures that in the 1930’s the German scientists opened up a portal that allowed regressives to enter our timeline. Had that not occurred, had humanity been ‘left alone’ where would humanity be now?

Alex: I think we would have done things very differently - but its only conjecture on my part, I don’t really know, I can’t predict the future any better than anyone else can. As far as I know no one can, because it’s all probability. The probabilities are that we would have changed things dramatically, we would have definitely gone maybe in a very different direction, but I don’t know that for sure - I just done know. Aside from that look at the decisions we’re making today and today is really all that we have. You don’t have yesterday, you don’t have tomorrow, all we have is the present. People are not really paying attention to where they are, at the moment, all the time. Yes they’re in the moment, they’re driving their car, they’re on their cell phone, cooking dinner. Their mind is always - what about tomorrow, what about next week, I gotta keep this appointment, and that appointment, and how much are we really creating right now?. I’m really looking at the idea of how much is this helping humanity? Is humanity benefiting anything from this?. I honestly don’t know.

Zen: A few years ago in your lectures you finished by stating that as long as humanity, people stick together there is nothing that we cannot achieve. Can we assume that four, five years down the track, your perspective on people is that the situation is now a complete 360-degree turn around?

Alex: Well, yes just from my own experiences with people. To me there is nothing very genuinely threatening about the A information, but I can tell you that, some of the threats have genuinely bothered me. I try not to take it personally - but I don’t see people changing, everybody just making more and more excuses for everything that’s going on both good and evil. The good parts I think we should hold onto.

Zen: What would it take to wake people up? A nuclear incident? Are we over a point of no return, that little light that blinks `no return’, indicating that no matter what you do there is nothing you can do to fix problems?

Alex: No, I don’t know that I would say that, but, why does it have to go to nuclear destruction? What if it had to go to biological to wake people up? Don’t they care about what’s going on? Why do we always have to go to the extreme? It just doesn’t make sense to me!.

Zen: So by the time people realize we’ve got ourselves into a bit of a rut, it’s too late to change anything?

Alex: Oooh yeah, I think we’re in a real big time rut.

Zen: If you were President of the United States, President Collier, what would you do?

Alex: [Laughing] If I were president of the United States, I think the very first thing that I would do would be to abolish the income tax system. Second thing that I would do is I would force the distribution of free energy - I would try to make people more free. The problem here is the more freedom you give people, the more responsible they need to be with their freedom. Will the people be responsible with their freedom? That’s the $64,000 dollar question and at this point I honestly don’t know!. I don’t know if the people would be more responsible. How do we change the world? Make it a better place if nobody wants to take responsibility for their own actions, if nobody wants to be accountable for what they do, when they hurt someone.

Zen: Is responsibility a learnt skill or is a part of a person’s soul? like the feeling of guilt. Nobody teaches it to you, it’s an emotion that comes naturally and through life experiences. If responsibility is a learnt skill, then how do people learn it?, when there doesn’t seem to be enough people with responsibility to learn from on the planet right now?

Alex: Well I think that some of it learnt, but I think that some of it is also very, very intuitive. I would say 99% of the people genuinely know the difference between right and wrong. But for whatever their reasons are their intention to do good is a very positive motivation, but the positive to do evil is also a very powerful motivation but its control, its manipulation and whenever somebody is in that position of wanting to control and manipulate, its because they themselves are not confident or confident in themselves. They have to control others, and this is where they get their confidence from - is in the control of others - that’s not evolution. Here, worry begets fear, fear begets anger, anger begets pain, and I see humanity completely stuck in that cycle, and all we do is blame each other, or blame the government or blame the school system, blame god, blame whomever, that’s all we do. But are we genuinely taking the steps to change ourselves? And our communities and the answer is no.

Zen: With this lack of responsibility, your view of the world in say, ten years time Alex?

Alex: [Long pause] I don’t know. I don’t know anymore. My honest feeling is that if we’re going to be here in ten years we need direct intervention. If its left to us, someone, some group will probably release biological weapons on the planet, and those things have the potential to kill everything on the surface of the earth..

Zen: Even those who release it?

Alex: Yes - where are you going to hide?

Zen: The moon?

Alex: Where are you going to hide from something like that?. I’m not just talking about one, but just one of these weapons is capable of killing millions of people!. There are definitely groups, religious organizations for lack of a better word that believe that its an honor to not only kill your enemy but yourself in the process because then your assured of going to heaven.

Zen: Doesn’t sound like a very enlightened religion..

Alex: Well are any them? - well there are some strengths and positives in all of them and there are also some negatives. I’ve gotten very cynical to be honest with you.

Zen: Have your changes in humanity and life been a gradual change? A sudden change? Or a realization?

Alex: I think its all three. Slow change, sudden change, its all become a realization - its progressive.

Zen: To be honest Alex you don’t paint a positive future.

Alex: Oh I understand, I do. I don’t see us fixing our problems without help, I just don’t. Five years ago I thought, hey, the potentials there, but after watching the apathy, not only around the world but here in the United States especially, I just don’t know how we are going to do it?.

Zen: Is it that just not enough people are aware of the Andromedan information? Or is that not-

Alex: It’s just not the A’s. There is other information. Information out there that not only complements it, maybe even going beyond it, I’m not exactly sure, I’m just making a blanket statement here but its really the apathy of the people.

Here in the United States, just look at the last election, just look at how many people voted, and how many didn’t vote. Look at the things that go on in this country politically and people don’t do anything about it, they don’t care. They are not willing to step out of their little box, to make genuine changes for the good of the nation, for the good of the community. There are a few exceptions but not nearly enough to make a significant change. How will we ever raise the consciousness of our species, if no one is willing, if few are willing to work on themselves?

The question ultimately comes down to this, and this is the question - How do we make love stay? And I don’t have an answer.. Who’s going to teach us to make love stay? Who’s going to teach us to be leaders, to be responsible. Who?. If there are no teachers here that can do this and be it, how will we ever going to make these changes?

Zen: President Bush, the leader of the United States, land of the free and brave - is he the right choice to lead the leader of the `free’ world based on the options provided to the people?

Alex: Well, my own opinion, yes - how could you believe anything Al Gore said? I would never vote for Gore even if he was only the candidate running!. Bush is not a spiritual leader, not a religious leader, he is just a figure head running a specific office, or has a title in the United States but you know, he’s not a savior, his not a god, just like no one else is. The world has to be done individually. There is no short cut.

Zen: It has to be a grass roots effort..

Alex: You know, my original purpose was to get behind peoples intellect and their prejudice, and try to awake some part of their consciousness that remembered the original intent, of who we were, where we came from, and why we choose to live. What is the lesson about earth, or about all of it, and I haven’t succeeded. I don’t think I’ve succeeded.

Zen: What would be your definition of success Alex?

Alex: The evolution of consciousness towards wisdom.

Zen: How would you gauge that you’ve achieved that? Getting one person to not so much as believe but try to comprehend the A’s message is one thing, but to get 1000 people? Let alone 1% of the world population. Is it more like lighting a spark? One person tells another person, who then carries it on, and then it grows like a wild fire and eventually everyone is questioning their own beliefs, why they believe something.

Alex: Well originally that’s what’s supposed to happen. That’s the way it’s supposed to happen.

Zen: Do you feel like you’ve lit the spark? Or is the fizzling out?

Alex: I honestly don’t know, I honestly don’t have an answer for that anymore. I don’t have a gauge. I’ll be honest with you, I really don’t know.

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