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misiunas
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Joined: Nov 01, 2001
Posts: 297
From: The other side of the forest
|  Posted: 2001-12-18 09:52
Tape name: Decision
Date: 20 May 1952
Tape Set: The Route to Infinity
Author: L. Ron Hubbard
"They can go around and say, "Now, Johnny. . . now, Johnny, you want your tonsils out, don't you, Johnny? Now, it's up to you to decide now, Johnny, whether or not you want your tonsils out. But of course, if your tonsils don't come out, you'll keep on having these nasty old colds. But you've got to have 'em out now, and I just want you to decide . . ." All they're trying to do is get him to agree, they're not getting him to decide. And the eventual thing is that poor little Johnny goes on the table.
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It's like the hunter: He goes out and he shoots a doe or a duck or something of the sort. He gets a big - he feels big about this, you know? The thing to do is to give the duck or the doe or something, you see, give them a shotgun too and then teach them how to use it, and it'd come up to a parity level.
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The only way you aberrate people is keep them from using their counter-efforts. You get them out and you do things to them, and then you don't permit them to do it. You say, "Under no circumstances should you be able to do this." "
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One of the things that I sometimes say to people is "Do what you have to do." And then I create the space to allow what needs to happen, to come to fruition. By removing my own opposition, or counter-effort, in the equation, the scales come to balance. This doesn't have anything to do with 'rightness' or 'wrongess', but it has everything to do with auditing. Allowing auditing to ocurr outside of a controlled environment such as a formal auditing session, requires the elimination of one's own counter-effort. This is why I see validity in the viewpoint of Life being just one big auditing session. 
When counter-effort arrives at my doorstep, I don't always relish the immersive experience, but I do acknowledge the necessity of the demonstration of incomplete cycles. Perhaps this could be said in another way: There is a reason that things happen in the way that they do and when the experience is shunned, all that is accomplished is an attempt at delaying the inevitable.
I like the idea of giving ducks guns. It levels the playing field and creates a game MUCH more exciting.
I am a hunter, and I've got six ducks for backup. Do you wanna play?
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misiunas
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Posts: 297
From: The other side of the forest
| Posted: 2001-12-18 10:41
Tape Name: Effort and Counter - Effort
Date: 06 Mar 1952
Author: L. Ron Hubbard
"And as you go on up the Tone Scale, a person gets to a point where eventually a counter-effort doesn?t even come near him.
There is a theoretical point on the Tone Scale where the individual would make a Mack truck bounce. Theoretically! That?s a theoretical point, you understand. But that?s what you?re extrapolating toward.
So at the top of this band that concerns itself with counter-efforts and efforts, you have somebody who could stand in the middle of a highway with a Mack truck coming at him at sixty miles an hour and could go right on standing there, and the Mack truck would either jump in the air or fly into the ditch or do something like this. In other words, a counter-effort does - won?t come anywhere near him. It?s as though he?s wearing a force screen or something of the sort.
And by the way, I?ve seen it happen. Very remarkable. There are lots of people around that just nothing can happen to them. That?s all. Lots of them. Just how it comes about you?re never quite sure, but for some reason or other, why, anything that starts to break or starts to fly loose or starts to hit them or something of the sort will suddenly suspend action. It just sort of does something very completely unexpected. And it, by the way, never hurts anybody else in the vicinity.
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How much counter-effort or how much effort in the universe do you presume is serving you, or is yours? Not yours as a 1.5 "I am," but just yours as an individual. How much effort in the universe are you willing to accept as yours? The more you accept as yours, the less will hit you. And that, pure and simple, is responsibility - the level of responsibility. For how much effort are you willing to take responsibility? Because you will get as a counter-effort any effort you don?t take under your responsibility.
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Do you realize, for instance, that an individual who nails down a piece of real estate, yard by a yard or a mile by a mile, and says, "That?s mine," the moment he puts a fence around it, he has disowned all the efforts outside that fence and they will immediately hit the fence as counter-efforts.
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In other words, the acceptance of an individual of the efforts of the MEST universe determines directly the amount of counter-effort which the individual is going to receive from the MEST universe. The degree to which he accepts the universe as his own effort is the degree to which he will not receive counter-efforts."
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Ok, I've got my hunting vest on. It's a new model called "The Terminator" and has an automatic force screen activator with a built-in counter-effort proximity detector. Wow!
Quack, quack! heeerrrreee little duckie...
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Jontu
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Joined: Nov 27, 2001
Posts: 84
From: Marcab
| Posted: 2001-12-18 14:30
Hmmm... You know, I seem to recall playing this game a time or two myself. I was pretty good at it too.
Lately I've been being a good little Jontu, but you know, it might be fun to let loose just a little - but just for old-times sake you understand.
Now where did I leave that robotic terminator body? 
...Ahh! Here it is...
Thump... thump... thump... thump
Click - click!
Lock and load.
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virginia
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Joined: Nov 14, 2001
Posts: 494
From: Post Falls, Idaho
| Posted: 2001-12-19 01:36
Paul,Jontu,
Great refs you posted, thanks!
Hey I don't have a terminator suit...Rummaging around in the identities closet...aha, this might work....
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Virginia
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