Leading Edge Interview Follow-Up No. 2
January 12, 1997
Val: How would you define and/or characterize the relationship between males and females in the Zenetaen society?
Alex: How would I characterize it? Now, understand that what I am giving you is only my impression from watching them interact when I was with them continuously for a period of three months. I would say that they are equal, and that they are treated as equals. I experienced a moment where there was a type of celebration in which one of their women, who I believe was about 470 years old, was leaving her assignment as part of an agricultural science group that developed new types of fruit and things for them to eat, because she wanted to become pregnant and raise a child. There was a celebration. Not all of the women do this, of course. Many of them decide to remain doing what they are doing in the position of creativity they are in, in terms of a “job” or “career”.
Val: In terms of the concept of a “relationship”, at least on the highest human level that you can conceive of….
Alex: I can tell you this. The men totally honor their women. If a group of four or more women are walking together down a hallway, men will stop and move to the side and slightly bow their heads as a greetings. Again, there may be communication going on, like “hello” or “how are you?”, but I didn’t hear it because they are telepathic and nothing was specifically directed to me. The only real sounds I heard were associated with their music, and Moraney asking me questions, wanting to know how I felt about certain things. The very first time I walked in, we left the smaller craft which was in some type of a hangar and we walked through what I could describe as a “liquid type of light”. There was some resistance, and as you walk through it you could feel a “wetness” on your face. The length of this material was about four or five feet. You could breathe in it. It was like a “liquid” but it wasn’t. When you got to the other end of it, you were in this long hallway and you were totally dry. He told me that this was a process they used to disinfect all disease or anything they might have carried with them from where they had been.
Val: In terms of the idea of relationships, at least as we consider them, all the ideas that involve co-dependency and this don’t exist in their society, I presume.
Alex: I have never seen anything like that.
Val: Do men and women walk around in pairs?
Alex: Yes, they do.
Val: Visually, then, there is just a picture of harmonious existence.
Alex: In my perception, that’s exactly right. To be perfectly honest with you, Val, I did not see any evidence of dysfunction whatsoever. In fact, it was one of the most positive experiences that I have ever had.
Val: Have the Zenetaens ever been under a control system in their history to where they were “under the gun” from another race or species? Have their ever been, to your knowledge, critical periods in the development of their civilization. If so, how could these be characterized?
Alex: Let me answer that question this way. I have that question written down to ask them, because you gave me a question like that before to ask them. But, they did tell me that there was a time when they first left the Lyrae system, after about 21 generations had gone by, where they found themselves hiding. Again, I don’t know all the details, but they were being hunted by another race. They were living in hollowed-out asteroids and moons. They were moving all the time.
Val: This is the whole Zenetaen civilization.
Alex: That’s correct, and I do not know how many there were. They were basically living on craft and having to move around all the time, looking for a place that was safe. Well, there were beings from the Casseopian system that helped them, and apparently at that point in time the Zenetaens were under a kind of imposed dictatorship, because they were in survival mode and one person took control of their civilization. I can remember Moraney saying that it was imperative that they receive help, because they may not have evolved out of that , had it gone on any longer. What happened was that they were taken to two solar systems in the Andromedan galaxy. We know them as “star 42” and “star 44”. Star 42 is Zenetae, which is now their star system. Star 44 is Tishtae. Star 42 has 27 planets around the binary stars. Star 44 has nine planets, but all of the planets are equal to or greater than the size of Jupiter. They at this point were all terraformed.
Val: These beings from the Casseopian system interacted with them approximately how long ago in our terms?
Alex: About 2.5 million years ago, but perhaps a little longer.
Val: Has the Zenetaen skin color always been blue?
Alex: No. It was red at one time. Their original forefathers were red-skinned, and I am told that the Lyraens and Vegans were red-skinned at that time.
Val: How did the progression begin to where the skin color changed to blue?
Alex: Apparently it had to do with a pigmentation change caused by the ingestion of certain minerals…
Val: Copper based minerals.
Alex: It was in the food and everything they ate, and the double sun had an effect on this too. You have to remember something here. We are talking about fifth density beings, not third density, so you have the additional three color spectrums. I always try to take that into account when comparing them to us. They do literally live in another frequency.
Val: So, were they ever in third density?
Alex: I am not sure about that.
Val: There seems to be a prevalent assumption among humans that things “start” at a level of third density existence. But, that’s a misnomer, because…
Alex: No all the races have been or are third density.
Val: So, since the period approximately 2.5 million years go, do you have any idea of how their civilization has grown and changed since then?
Alex: No, I don’t know. All I know is where they are now because that’s the only way I know them. That would be a question I would have to ask them.
Val: Now, at one point in time I had asked you whether the Zenetaens were aware of another group from the Andromedan system called the Inextrians, and you indicated that this group was from a star called Mirach.
Alex: Yes, Mirach is the central sun for that system. There are, if I remember this correctly, 919 other suns that revolve around Mirach, including stars we don’t even see.
Val: Stars that exist on other frequency levels.
Alex: That’s correct. I believe approximately 130 of those 919 suns have inhabited planetary systems. The Inextrians come from one of those 130. There are two other groups from that group of 130 that have been here to Earth before.
Val: How about the civilization from Koldas, the Koldasians that were involved in the South African case around 1960. Apparently, according to a question I received from Chicago, the Koldasians were involved in something called “Operation Fireball” which parallels some of the things going on today that are connected to the HAARP program, under which methane is deliberately being injected into Earths atmosphere and an attempt is being made to ignite it.
Alex: They’re going to “light up” the atmosphere and burn it. That is a probability.
Val: It makes you wonder how many people in the Department of the Navy, E-Systems and Raytheon are on Prozac.
Alex: Let me put it this way, getting back to the subject of the Koldasians. My experience with the Zenetaens, as far as their description of other races is concerned, is that they do not give me a “name”, per se, unless they had an Earth name that we would recognize or know. But, if there was no name, they would always use a symbol. Now, I do not know that any of the symbols that I have written down apply to what you call the Kodasians, as they know them. I simply don’t know that. They have always referred to the other races by referring to the name of the main star concerned with their location. I don’t know the name Koldasians or Koldas.
Val: Now, we have reviewed some of these questions which originated in Chicago and New York, and some of them you indicated that you had no information about, so we’ll skip those and move on. Now, one question concerned the communication via archetypal holographs and symbols and the meaning gleaned by the Zenetaens relative to the 9:11 and 7:11 height-to-base ratios embodied in the Giza pyramid, which you indicated had to do with the Orion group, and that the significance holographically of the triangle or triad symbol was concerned with Orion.
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