Leading Edge Interview
Transcript 1996
Subsequent to the publication of the Ets and the Global Connection in Leading Edge #89, we did an interview with Alex Collier in order to ask some followup questions and try to gain further insight into the paradigm involved. The following is the result of our interview. - Val Valerian
Val: One question that arises as a result of analysis of the material in your Dallas lecture involves a further exploration of the concept of the magnetic color-sound frequency emanating from black holes. In your Dallas lecture, you said that this particular activity began a short time ago.
AC: I don’t know that I know much more than I’ve already said, but I’ll go through it again. According to Moraney, on March 23rd of 1994 a color and sound frequency apparently started emanating from the black holes. It is of such a high vibration that it is literally invisible to us. It is not, however, invisible to those in other dimensions or to those who are technologically advanced enough to be able to register this energy. Now, they have said all along that the universe that we physically see is only 21 billion years old. The space in which our universe is in, which is only one layer in many dimensions which they call “consciousness”, is a 21 trillion year old holograph. This new frequency which is coming out of the 3rd density black holes spans the entire range of the holograph of the universe, and its is literally creating a new holographic idea. They are calling this new holograph “the 12th”, and they have said to me that it is literally bringing all the dimensions together. Third density is beginning to implode on itself.
Val: Drunvalo Melchizedek at one time in the Flower of Life discourse made some statements on what he thought people might objectively see when a dimensional interface was in progress. I mean, the physical picture that people would observe when this was happening. Do you have any ideas about this, or have the Andromedans stated anything about this? Would there be objects appear that have unusual colors, or things that appear and disappear? Have they ever told you what to expect, beyond the increased appearance of ghostly phenomena as time progresses?
AC: Well, certainly they have said that, but in their opinion the closer we get to fifth density, we shall see that. In their perspective, fourth density is a consciousness. This is one of the blinds of metaphysics that is being taught here on Earth.
Val: Blinds?
AC: It’s a misteaching.
Val: Please explain.
AC: All right. Fourth density is a unified consciousness. As we move into fourth density, we will become more in tune, not only with the Earth, but with each other. We will know something is going on without having to look at television or listen to the radio. We will start to feel it, and we will literally have conversations “in our heads” with loved ones long gone or in other parts of the world. It will be confirmed that what we call “daydreaming” is a real occurrence. They said that this is going to happen more and more as we get closer to fourth density. Many of the children under the age of 14, as we go into fourth density, are going to start speaking ancient dialects, and have no explanation as to how they know it. Children and adults will be discovering archeological sites all over the world. New inventions will come out of nowhere. People will be able to draw sophisticated diagrams. Many racial memories embodying extraterrestrial origins will start to come up as a result of the genetics that each one of us carries. Certain memories will start to come up, and they have said that some of those memories will not be “ours”, but instead have their origin within the genetics that have been “attached” to us.
Val: By these 22 extraterrestrial races that have had a part to play in the evolution of the human body.
AC: Right. Now, this is occurring already, and so many people are angry. Much of the anger that is coming up in young people is because some of this DNA is “unlocking”, and they don’t know what to do with the energy, because third density is compressing.
Val: Well, then, what would one advise teens to do?
AC: The Andromendans never really got into this area. I’ll have to get back to them about this, but I am certain it will have to do with setting up a “system of expression”.
Val: Most probably. I know that culturally this society is lacking in viable systems of expression that have been thwarted by technological “evolution”. So, a perceptual change where one sees bizarre visual things would not occur until we begin to go into fifth density?
AC: Yes, we will first start to see what we think are ghosts or spirit guides. Some of us on the planet (and there are already five who can do this) will be moving in and out between fourth and fifth density almost at will. They will be able to teleport to different places on the planet. We’re talking about hundreds of thousands of people. If they’re right, this will mean we’ll be going through some remarkable shifts. If they’re right.
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